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Hok fans are behind all of this nonsense.They understand that their dominance in this state will soon be at an end.
See all of you on Beale Street at the end of the month!
I think he's having a nervous breakdown because he only won 7 games.Interesting that Petersen mentioned recharging and not retiring. He's not going away, and will be mentioned for nearly every big job in the next 3-4 years.
More time to convince Urb?That sucks...I wanted this one off the list for next year. Helton is a dead man walking after the handling of this situation.
More time to convince Urb?
I think CSU would be a really good nonP5 job. Brand new stadium, a lot of money in the town.
We really should start beating them...
3.) That’s tough, as student attendance would crater if they had to pay per use. And then good luck getting alums to attend games that didn’t go as students.3) CSU has (and I believe still does) given students free tickets to football games. (It's not really free, they pay for it indirectly in student fees). This IMO leads to a perceived value of the football game, which is exactly $0. So new alums don't go to games after they graduate, because they think games should be free.
4) There's a ton of other things to do in Fort Collins in the fall besides watch an average at best football team.
I'm a CSU (and ISU) alum, have lived in Fort Collins for 11 years, and wife works at CSU. Here are the positives and negatives to football job and program:
Good:
1) Brand new stadium
2) Money in town
3) Decent alumni support
4) Great city and school
Bad:
1) MWC keeps getting tied in to late night TV contracts, so kick is often between 7-8pm local time for several games, AD claims he can't do anything about it because of conference ties (I call BS). Night games are fun, occasionally. Tailgating in the dark sucks. Getting out of football games after midnight sucks worse.
2) New stadium on campus has essentially ruined traditional tailgating. Everything remotely close to stadium is "rent-a-tailgate" or beer tents with music, which are fun, but extremely different from the scene at ISU or even what CSU was at Hughes Stadium. Very manufactured, not organic at all.
3) CSU has (and I believe still does) given students free tickets to football games. (It's not really free, they pay for it indirectly in student fees). This IMO leads to a perceived value of the football game, which is exactly $0. So new alums don't go to games after they graduate, because they think games should be free.
4) There's a ton of other things to do in Fort Collins in the fall besides watch an average at best football team.
Wrap all the bad stuff together, and you have a TON of empty seats, in the newest stadium in the country. About 50% of those who show up leave at halftime, regardless of the situation. Perhaps partly because they stop serving beer in the second half (if they didn't serve beer, NO students would go). Remember when ISU had 2-win seasons and they were selling out and expanding the stadium? Would NEVER happen at CSU.
The only thing that will cure all this is winning. And even then you're probably not going to fill the entire stadium with the late game times.
Sat part about the CSU job as a fan, is that it absolutely is a stepping stone job, and we've seen the two outcomes of this. If the coach does well at CSU, he will move up to a P5 team (e.g. Jim McElwain, who at the time had the largest buyout contract ever). On the other hand, if you give a coach five years and they don't do well, you just wasted half a decade (e.g. Mike Bobo). It's a lose-lose as a fan, best you can expect is a good year every 10 years, before your coach gets poached.