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[im4cyclones]

I'll take some blame for posting from my mobile which may have caused some of your reading comprehension issues.

Never blamed the teachers.

Never said anything about anyone getting rich.

Adminstrators make decisions based on the specific needs for that school/district. For cash strapped districts, sending the students to an outsourced program means less money for the school. So instead of losing the money, they will cobble together an in-house program just to keep the funding. There are some schools which change from in-house to outsourced every couple of years as a result of ths cobbled approach. For a student with special needs, the lack of consistency doesn't help one bit.

For some schools without funding problems, and since these are often times in well-to-do areas, administators don't want the parents to think their children are co-mingled with special needs kids. So they decide the outsourced method is the way to go. Out of sight, out of mind. This is especially true with behavior disorder kids. The last thing they want are parents finding out there are repeated problems as a result of the "bad" kids. The parents pay good tax money for their kid to be in a school without problem kids (actual comment from one administrator).

No reading comprehension issues. You said schools. A school is a building. It is the people who make decisions... i.e. the teachers and administrators. So when you say schools do something, what you mean (whether you intend it or not) is that the people in the school do it.

They may "cobble" together a program because they are required by law to provide a program to serve that kid or find that student an alternative placement. There may be some who "cobble" together a program to serve that child due to budgetary constraints. But what is the alternative? If there isn't money to tuition out a student, would you prefer they ran in the red?? And what if there isn't an alternative program nearby to send students? In the metro area (Ames and Des Moines), name the programs. You can count them on one hand.

And actually many large districts that have the money to create an alternative program in-house have one. They don't send them somewhere else.

Need to get your facts in order.

 

[CloneIce]

I think there is always going to be the occasionally kid who is messed up in the head at school... you just hope he gets the help he needs and/or his parents aren't dumb enough to leave their guns where their messed up kid can get them.

 

[cloneswereall]

I am asking the moderators to remove this post.

This post is breaking confidentiality and should be removed. You have put private information of a child, an adult, and the school policies on a public forum. Your wife is not supposed to tell you anything in relation to a person’s health at school. Also, you should not be putting this information online. Someone could use this information to identify everyone involved. If this happens your wife will not have to worry about her problems at the school for much longer. Think before you write on a public forum.

Yea, I was kind of wondering about that whole HIPPA/FERPA thing as well when I was reading that.

 

[notoriouslfb]

I disagree although you bring up good points. If the mods want to amend or remove I wouldn't object because the larger issue is more important than the details.

There are six school districts in my area that probably employ 1,000 certified employees, none of which I have named, in-whole or in-part. The acknowledgment of an IEP in Iowa is not a breach of confidentiality; the disclosure of information within the IEP to non-legitimate sources is a breach. More importantly, since this family refuses to get the child tested there is no IEP information on him. Finally, I hardly think a student punching and spitting on my wife must remain confidential - in fact all actions like that should be publicized.

The main point is we have situations where some children are suspended for petty reasons (bringing lego gun to school) and when a child with obvious severe issues has no consequences for threats we have a systematic failure.

It does not matter what you think. These are educational records (FERPA) about a student and his father's condition. Whether or not legally binding it puts the student and father in a bad position. They can't argue with you without disclosing who they are. If someone on this board knows your identity then they could very well figure out the person who you are talking about. You do not know who is on this board and reading these posts.

Do a favor and stop posting about your wifes students. That is the main point.

 

[Cyclonic1]

The kid sees devils in the time out room so he freaks out when he has to go in there. But then he punches, pushes, and spits on teachers.

IMO your wife is justified in feeling threatened and so should get the school board/police involved if no one else like the principal will do anything. If Lanza had any warning signs I'll bet they were similar to this kid.