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  1. XOVERX

    *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

    BrownCounty told me in an email about his contact at Texas. It's campus employee friend of a campus employee friend who is close to those who know things in Bellmont Hall. So it's a triple hearsay kind of deal, but the jobs of the people he tells me about seem plausible. It think it may be a...
  2. XOVERX

    *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

    I read this quite a bit on various boards. From the pov of ISU, what do you all mean when you say it's "Texas' conference". Being a Texas alumnus, I wish it were "Texas' conference," but I don't see it that way. Obviously many disagree? Elaboration appreciated. Thanks.
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    *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

    How many baseball weekends are there? Softball? How many basketball games hit on Sundays, especially for the women? Do sports other than football count? Do women's sports count? The Louisville board is all excited right now because their opening football game with Kentucky has been moved to...
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    *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

    Sure, a "best efforts" contract would be, to me, a reasonable point of common ground. It's just that I don't think the LDS agrees with this assessment.
  5. XOVERX

    *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

    Is this correct? I have not read this anywhere. If BYU actually wanted to join with no strings attached, like every other conference member, that might be a good thing for the conference (but for the distance). Of all the schools that left the Big 12, I miss CU the most because of that trip...
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    *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

    While it is impossible to say for sure, I personally think BYU's boat to the Big 12 has sailed off without them on board. There's a lot to like about BYU, but there's also a lot not to like about BYU. Especially their absolute insistence on the unilateral right to game forfeiture. I can...
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    *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

    FromTheInside really appears to know his stuff. He can be a difficult read because of the number of posts. Allow me to simplify some of his information relevant to the Big 12 through paraphrasing and selectively quoting: * There was supposed to have been an "unofficial" meeting between FSU and...
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    *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

    Just thinking about Florida State, Clemson, Miami is a little overwhelming. Add in Notre Dame, even for just non-football, and it all seems surreal. I imagine things will become serious with the ACC schools when the final details of the deal with ESPN become more firm. If the deal remains less...
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    *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

    You guys are correct. Primary and secondary rivals must be from different pods. My bad. I switched a few around, and now all the teams "fit" (I think). Of course, there are numerous potential permutations -- the above is only one example. The championship game must be 2-team under current...
  10. XOVERX

    *****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

    Here's an example of a possible B12 with 16 teams: * Primary protected rival: Play every year, rotating home-and-home. * Secondary protected rival: Play 2 out of 3 years, rotating home-and-home. * 8 Conference games per year; 4 OOC games per year. * Divisions change every year. Year 1: Pod...
  11. XOVERX

    Big 12 considering adding ACC teams..to 16

    It is a long post. Sorry. I could have shortened it up, but WTF. As for royhobbs09 questions: #1 -- how do you decide who plays in the conference championship game? "... the way the playoff could is work is the two pods that play against each other any particular year would form a...
  12. XOVERX

    Big 12 considering adding ACC teams..to 16

    Like others, I would love to see Clemson and FSU join the B12. If one ACC team leaves the ACC, it could spark other teams leaving the ACC. In that case, all of the SEC, B1G, and B12 could swiftly carve up the ACC in literally a matter of days. Even after the SEC and B1G finished feeding at the...
  13. XOVERX

    ***OFFICIAL BIG12 EXPANSION THREAD***

    There is something to be said for camradery. There is also something to be said for paying the bills.
  14. XOVERX

    ***OFFICIAL BIG12 EXPANSION THREAD***

    To me, at least, a 16 team conference, correctly set up, is superior to a 12-team conference, because a 16-team conference gives you all the benefits of a 12-team conference, yet you get a much greater footprint, power, and revenue generating potential in a 16-team conference. Furthermore, in...
  15. XOVERX

    Sooner Network close to reality

    I want to tiptoe into this conversation very carefully as there appears to be some general unhappiness with the way Tier 3 income is handled in the B12. I thought ya'll would be intrigued by this developing OU deal with FOX, since maybe you could do something similar, but that doesn't appear to...
  16. XOVERX

    Big 12 North?

    I really think you sell ISU short, cyman05. First, remember: Kansas brings in $10M a year in its Tier 3 basketball revenue. Yes, Kansas is an elite basketball school, but the Kansas fanbase -- Is it any larger than the ISU fanbase? Ten million dollars per year is a lot of money for any...
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    Big 12 North?

    I think the B12 is stable for the short-run, which is the next 6 years in which the GOR is in effect. The question is: Will the league stabilize for the long-run? I don't think we know the answer to the question yet; however, the path to realizing stability is clear. Will the Big 12's Tier 3...
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    Louisville still in play for B12

    Duplicate post.
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    Louisville still in play for B12

    Right now, it looks to me like the B12 is going to wait on ND to see if ND elects to stay in a reconstructed BE. If not, several sites and news organizations have posted the rumor that the B12 is now approaching ND as joining "all in." The sugar is that the B12 will allow the Domers to keep...
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