Lance Armstrong faces a setback
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Good, he can come ride RAGBRAI with me again.
2 years ago I saw him fly past and 20 seconds later he was gone.
2 years ago I saw him fly past and 20 seconds later he was gone.
I was relieved to read the post, given the title.
Actually, a broken collarbone is more of a "speed bump". I was afraid you were going to say he had a recurrance.
Maybe I look at things differently because my wife is a cancer survivor. I doubt he loses any sleep over this, we shouldn't either.
Nice accusation :skeptical:
Look, it's quite possible that he has doped, and considering the steroid problem among athletes in this nation, particularly among cyclists, all of them are suspect. And even I have my doubts about Lance. But the guy has never tested positive, and since in this country we tend to place innocence over guilt until guilt has been proven, for the time being I will continue to assume he is clean (however wrong my assumption may be).
Lance Armstrong had to be the most tested athlete in history. If the French could find the slightest bit of evidence he would have been found out a long time ago. They HATE him. Your accusation is beyond weak and just shows you have no idea what you are talking about. :no:
I am sure Mark Levinstein(Lance's attorney) who has won every case where they have sued folks for false claims would LOVE to talk to you.
Can we have neg rep back?
He is the most tested athlete on earth, and has never tested positive.
and if you have enough money you can find things to beat the tests... Not saying he did or didn't, just that tests mean absolutely nothing, some people just cover their tracks better than others.
Possible?
Probable is the word you are looking for. I for one admired the heck out of Armstrong, but not to 'suspect' him is nothing short of naive. I admired him, even assuming that he has doped. Early in his career (pre cancer) he was a serviceable pro rider. He comes back and accomplishes something beyond extraordinary. All of his elite contemporaries were doping. (It will be easier in your rebuttals to name the elite cyclists of the last 10-15 years who haven't been caught doping or later admitted). He comes back to dominate a sport filled with dopers. It would be like Ozzie Smith coming back and breaking Mark McGuire's Cardinal HR record and no one suspecting he was doping.
With out taking away from his accomplishment, as all others were doing it defense, there is nothing that can lead me to believe he is that much of a superior human machine to do it clean. Add to it his personality and I am convinced he has doped. EPO, Steriods, HGH, all of the above?????
His commitment to the Cancer Cause has been admirable. It also promotes his ego in as big as way as possible, while still being palatable to the public. I never had personal interaction with him, but do know 3 people who have. Independent of one another they all say the same thing. Egomaniac scumbag. Each one of these individuals has a different slant on his personal life versus his public life, but needless to say, my opinion of the guy has gone way down hill.
Nope, I said possible, I meant possible. As has been pointed out, he is the most tested and retested athlete in the world. Maybe he is ahead of the curve and does things to beat out the tests. But like I said in my original post, in this country you are innocent until you are proven guilty. Guess what? He is the most tested athlete in the world and so far no one has been able to come up with a shred of evidence that he is guilty. Is he guilty? POSSIBLY. Am I suspicious of him? Yes. But until someone comes up with concrete proof that he has doped, I will treat him as if he is 100% clean, and that includes not saying that "he has PROBABLY doped."