McDermott under contract until 2015?

[CYnI]

Label me as a McD supporter. Label me as someone who does not see the whole picture.
However, before doing so, look honestly at the situation he entered. Look at his track record, regardless of where it was.
See the improvement in many players during this year.
See the game plans being presented, and if able to execute, were excellent plans, that matched the skills available.
Watch game decisions and adjustments. See the loyalty and committment in the players.
Watch the teaching that occurs every moment.
This man has passion and clearly understands the x's and o's
Of course assistants are directly involved in recruiting. Do you think that a player only comes to a school because of the relationship with an assistant?
ISU needs athleticism. Period. ISU needs athletes that can penetrate, beat their man off the dribble, and create their own shot. We have CB that can do these things in the 4 spot. We have noone else in the starting lineup that does. Until we get athletic players, it will not change. I am excited for Pomlee, Gilstrap, Colvin to step on the floor. Will they each produce 15 a game, no. Are they athletes, yes. Look at the difference on the floor in the last 10 games when Boozer brings his athletic ability.
McD understands. He has been producing the best product he could with what he has. Sit back and watch, rather than speculate that you know his passion, his skills, or the passion and skills of the assistants. Please.

 

[sclotz]

As painful as it has been lately, I am a Mac supporter as well. I attended ISU in the Johnny Orr era and have been a huge fan ever since, so the current situation is difficult to watch in terms of wins and losses. A long term contract with Greg provides the stability necessary to build a foundation for long term success...I would rather have that than a year or two of success resulting in a coach depart for another school or other situations that effect long term stability. Go Cyclones!

 

[isuforlife]

What are you doing Pollard?

 

[CyAg]

I am still in support of McDermott and I understand he needed some protection at the signing point of this agreement.

However, in my as a fan and supporter of this program, this is way to long and irresponsible.

I am not very happy with this situation and as fans we have very few ways to voice our displeasure.

 

[CycloneErik]

It's a surprising amount of time, no doubt.

If the extension was triggered, though, by avoiding sanctions that were very possible (guessing from context), then it makes sense that this would be taking extra time.

It may also make sense, seeing the increase in talent that is coming in, that we may have had to 'sacrifice' a couple of years to get that APR # up to an acceptable level, still have our scholarships to work with, and then get the players we really need.

I don't know if this is the deal. It makes enough sense to me as an outsider.

 

[KCy]

When McDermott was hired and stinson, blalock, carr, degand, and taggart left everyone was saying how bad we were and how it was going to take time to build a team. Not only did he get a team without any players, Taylor and Wes screwed us.

I like our team, especially when our best players are freshman and sophomores. If he keeps recruiting the he is we will have a pretty talented team, not just starting lineup.

I will only become impatient when he has a "veteran" losing team. It seems like a lot of us forget that this is a building process. We weren't very good before McD. After Floyds recruits were gone, it all went downhill.

 

[Al_4_State]

I'm doing the Stan Marsh "grab your nose, shut your eyes and look at the ground and sigh". FML. I've been a really big Pollard supporter, and am excited about some of the things he's done, but between severely overpriced football tickets and his man crush on McD, I'm not as sure about him as I once was...

 

[jeff0514]

Doesn't surprise me... I used to be a huge Pollard fan, but stuff like this has become par for the course. I've become so apathetic, it doesn't even really phase me anymore.

 

[Klaverius]

You guys need to calm down. Not many of you appreciate how bad the program was when McDermott came in. He has had some problems of his own but he was starting literally from scratch. He's had exactly one four year guy in his tenure, Rashon Clark. This team isn't that far from being average. If Brackins comes back next year, there is marginal improvement from the other guys and Gilstrap can come in and score some there is a real chance to win 20 games next year.

Even if McDermott wasn't under contract that long he needed to be given long enough so that is 100% certain he can't win. Another coaching change won't help. Constant coaching turnover is why we haven't maintained a winning program. Besides our problem is lack of talent so unless there is some big time recruiter that wants to come to ISU getting a new coach won't immediately cure the losing.

 

[CyAg]

Right now, regardless of how everything ends up, it is a 6 year lock. Not a very exciting prospect to keep this fan base from becoming apathetic.

Hope not, but it is concerning and possible.

 

[nestor2312]

I don't post a lot, but I think a lot of people are missing a big point in the article. While it says McDermott is locked in till 2015, we all know coaches can still be fired under contract.

The reason for the long extension helps with recruiting. Recruits see the coach is locked in and have reason to believe he is going to stay. McDermott says it himself in the article;

"One of the first questions out of any recruit's mouth is how long you're staying," McDermott said. "If you're winning, they think you're leaving because you're successful. If you're not winning, they think you're going to be forced out because you're not successful. Having said that, the security has been a huge positive for recruiting."

 

[CyAg]

1. I agree with the recruiting angle (and now he will face even closer recruiting scrutiny).
2. What will upset most is:
a. The quietness of it being applied.
b. The fact that with current budgets a buyout will simply not be very likely if things do not improve. Many were content to see how it plays out with a 3 year contract. More will be frustrated with the 6 year.

 

[brianhos]

Well this is going to cost us a lot more $$$.

 

[MontyBurns]

I am very disappointed in our media. They reported this not long ago:

Pollard said McDermott, in the third year of a six-year contract, would likely not see a contract extension after the season because “there’s no need to extend it right now,” but said he fully supported McDermott.

Source: MEN'S BASKETBALL: Support amidst struggles

What Pollard failed to say is that there is no need to extend it right now because it is actually the third year of a 9 year contract. Of course he isn't going to announce a bungled move on his part, but why doesn't our media call him on it?

 

[nestor2312]

Well this is going to cost us a lot more $$$.

Assuming we buy him out. Just like everyone else I've been extremely disappointed in the first three years.

However, we lose Peterson, Haluska, and Thompson and replace them (with at least on paper) much more athletic players; Gilstrap, Colvin, Pomlee. Assuming Brackins stays, pieces are in place to be better.

You have to have stability to make a program work, and that is what this contract is showing.

 

[Awesome Rick]

The reason for all of this player turnover is because of McDermott. That's why everyone has left. It's why West left, it's why Taggart left, it's why Degand left, it's why Carr left, etc.

When Huggins left K-State, Beasley didn't follow him to West Virginia because K-State had a coach that was able to keep Beasley around. Players are leaving because they don't like McDermott because he runs a sluggish offense. I am so sick of everyone saying that this player turnover is not McDermott's fault when it clearly is.

Having said that, if McDermott is around until 2015, this program is in the cellar until 2018...Great!

 

[gocubs2118]

Doesn't bother me one bit either.

 

[CycloneErik]

The reason for all of this player turnover is because of McDermott. That's why everyone has left. It's why West left, it's why Taggart left, it's why Degand left, it's why Carr left, etc.

When Huggins left K-State, Beasley didn't follow him to West Virginia because K-State had a coach that was able to keep Beasley around. Players are leaving because they don't like McDermott because he runs a sluggish offense. I am so sick of everyone saying that this player turnover is not McDermott's fault when it clearly is.

Having said that, if McDermott is around until 2015, this program is in the cellar until 2018...Great!

The first bunch left before he was even hired. Whatever.

 

[j4state]

Wow, I feel like puking right now. I've been saying that McD will not be going anywhere for awhile due to JP but this was out of the realm of my thinking.

Pollard is a good guy for the job but my confidence in him has certainly gone down in the last 5 months. Having said that, it was refreshing to see his quote in the article acknowledging things not getting done.

 

[rhillary]

Assuming we buy him out. Just like everyone else I've been extremely disappointed in the first three years.

However, we lose Peterson, Haluska, and Thompson and replace them (with at least on paper) much more athletic players; Gilstrap, Colvin, Pomlee. Assuming Brackins stays, pieces are in place to be better.

You have to have stability to make a program work, and that is what this contract is showing.

Also, we add the Marquette transfer Christopherson. He might not be great but he should help and I think he will be a better option than Eikmeier.

I think McD's legacy will hinge on getting Brackins back. If he gives McD 1 more year, we have a legit shot at the NCAA's. Even if we lose Brackins and Gilstrap after next year, we will return seniors: Garrett, Boozer, and Staiger; juniors: Buckley, Hamilton, Mann, Eikmeier, and Christopherson; and still have the incoming 2010 freshmen and Colvin! It wouldn't be a terrible group to have around!

Come on Brackins! 1 more year!:yes: