Oh come on now. Didn't you listen to the pre/halftime/postgame commentary stating that as absolute 100% fact during our Houston game???Do they though?
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Oh come on now. Didn't you listen to the pre/halftime/postgame commentary stating that as absolute 100% fact during our Houston game???Do they though?
Who has a better starting 5? I dislike them as much as anyone, I jsut think people are sleeping on them in the tournament. They have a 7-2 guy to go along with elite guard play, they already have the best high end wins in college basketball so I wouldn't want to play them in the tourney.Do they though?
All I'm saying is you can't discount their wins over UConn, Kentucky, and Tennesse just because they've lost some Big 12 road games. They've also dominated Houston and beat Baylor without their best player.i hate kansas just as much as the next guy but you cant argue their starting 5 isn't good. lol
especially since Furphy came on strong
Might depend on the conference tournament. Records against Q1 and Q2 would be very close (not sure on Q1a). The head to head should trump the fact that the back end of ISU's schedule is loaded with Q4s compared to Kansas (9 to 4). If they matched up in the Big 12 tournament, it would be obvious. If they both get as far in the tournament as the other, then its probably a coin flip.So, if we win out and KU loses the 2 games I think they will: at Baylor and UH, does a 3 game better conference record, better metrics, and beating them head to head get us the 2 seed over them?
Us, Purdue, Houston, Duke, Creighton, etc.Who has a better starting 5? I dislike them as much as anyone, I jsut think people are sleeping on them in the tournament. They have a 7-2 guy to go along with elite guard play, they already have the best high end wins in college basketball so I wouldn't want to play them in the tourney.
They're good. Starting five is excellent. Best in the country is debatable. But the falloff to their bench is HUGE. That will catch up with them. Just watchAll I'm saying is you can't discount their wins over UConn, Kentucky, and Tennesse just because they've lost some Big 12 road games. They've also dominated Houston and beat Baylor without their best player.
You can't brag about how tough the Big 12 is and how it's very difficult to win on the road, then turn around and say they aren't very good because they've lost those road games.
@Cyclonepride wants it both ways.
Lol, you lost me at Purdue. This is the same board that is constantly making comments about how they will lose in the first round again because of bad guard play.
Why use statistics to back up your point when you can use eye test and anecdotes...Lol, you lost me at Purdue. This is the same board that is constantly making comments about how they will lose in the first round again because of bad guard play.
I think I even saw the analogy of a junior high team with the 6'8 kid nobody can guard.
Do a comparison then just using logic. Furphy is going to lose most matchups at the 2, but what other team would beat the Mccullar, Dickinson, Harris trio?Why use statistics to back up your point when you can use eye test and anecdotes...
Are we playing 5 games of one-on-one?Do a comparison then just using logic. Furphy is going to lose most matchups at the 2, but what other team would beat the Mccullar, Dickinson, Harris trio?
Just do us for comparison.
Lipsey > Harris
Gilbert > Furphy
So you have Lipsey over Harris, but then you have Adams to make up for that.
McCullar > MomCilovic
Adams > Tre
Dickinson > BRE
Go look at Torivks metrics on individual players. They match up perfectly with what I was thinking just off the top of my head from watching both teams. We would lose 3-2 if you're comparing starting lineups.Are we playing 5 games of one-on-one?
If only there was some kind of numbers or something that would prove which line-up was more efficient...Go look at Torivks metrics on individual players. They match up perfectly with what I was thinking just off the top of my head from watching both teams. We would lose 3-2 if you're comparing starting lineups.
I think it's fair to say our some is greater than the individuals.Are we playing 5 games of one-on-one?
You're trying to illustrate Kansas has a better 5 based on talent alone. That's not being logical. Logical is using data to support your claims. @goody2012 provided you with the dataDo a comparison then just using logic. Furphy is going to lose most matchups at the 2, but what other team would beat the Mccullar, Dickinson, Harris trio?
Just do us for comparison.
Lipsey > Harris
Gilbert > Furphy
So you have Lipsey over Harris, but then you have Adams to make up for that.
McCullar > MomCilovic
Adams > Tre
Dickinson > BRE
That's becuase you're trying to figure out which starting 5 plays well together as a team while I'm figuring out who has the better and more talented players. There's no wrong answers here.If only there was some kind of numbers or something that would prove which line-up was more efficient...
yeah, i don't know how healthy they've been recently.All I'm saying is you can't discount their wins over UConn, Kentucky, and Tennesse just because they've lost some Big 12 road games. They've also dominated Houston and beat Baylor without their best player.
You can't brag about how tough the Big 12 is and how it's very difficult to win on the road, then turn around and say they aren't very good because they've lost those road games.
@Cyclonepride wants it both ways.