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Do they though?
Who has a better starting 5? I dislike them as much as anyone, I jsut think people are sleeping on them in the tournament. They have a 7-2 guy to go along with elite guard play, they already have the best high end wins in college basketball so I wouldn't want to play them in the tourney.
 
The bias is going to show when the committee drops UCONN 1 spot (from a blowout loss on the road to #13 team) and ISU drop several spots (from a close loss on the road to the nations best team).
 
i hate kansas just as much as the next guy but you cant argue their starting 5 isn't good. lol

especially since Furphy came on strong
All I'm saying is you can't discount their wins over UConn, Kentucky, and Tennesse just because they've lost some Big 12 road games. They've also dominated Houston and beat Baylor without their best player.

You can't brag about how tough the Big 12 is and how it's very difficult to win on the road, then turn around and say they aren't very good because they've lost those road games.

@Cyclonepride wants it both ways.
 
So, if we win out and KU loses the 2 games I think they will: at Baylor and UH, does a 3 game better conference record, better metrics, and beating them head to head get us the 2 seed over them?
Might depend on the conference tournament. Records against Q1 and Q2 would be very close (not sure on Q1a). The head to head should trump the fact that the back end of ISU's schedule is loaded with Q4s compared to Kansas (9 to 4). If they matched up in the Big 12 tournament, it would be obvious. If they both get as far in the tournament as the other, then its probably a coin flip.
 
Who has a better starting 5? I dislike them as much as anyone, I jsut think people are sleeping on them in the tournament. They have a 7-2 guy to go along with elite guard play, they already have the best high end wins in college basketball so I wouldn't want to play them in the tourney.
Us, Purdue, Houston, Duke, Creighton, etc.

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All I'm saying is you can't discount their wins over UConn, Kentucky, and Tennesse just because they've lost some Big 12 road games. They've also dominated Houston and beat Baylor without their best player.

You can't brag about how tough the Big 12 is and how it's very difficult to win on the road, then turn around and say they aren't very good because they've lost those road games.

@Cyclonepride wants it both ways.
They're good. Starting five is excellent. Best in the country is debatable. But the falloff to their bench is HUGE. That will catch up with them. Just watch
 
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Lol, you lost me at Purdue. This is the same board that is constantly making comments about how they will lose in the first round again because of bad guard play.

I think I even saw the analogy of a junior high team with the 6'8 kid nobody can guard.
Why use statistics to back up your point when you can use eye test and anecdotes...
 
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Why use statistics to back up your point when you can use eye test and anecdotes...
Do a comparison then just using logic. Furphy is going to lose most matchups at the 2, but what other team would beat the Mccullar, Dickinson, Harris trio?

Just do us for comparison.

Lipsey > Harris
Gilbert > Furphy

So you have Lipsey over Harris, but then you have Adams to make up for that.

McCullar > MomCilovic
Adams > Tre
Dickinson > BRE
 
Do a comparison then just using logic. Furphy is going to lose most matchups at the 2, but what other team would beat the Mccullar, Dickinson, Harris trio?

Just do us for comparison.

Lipsey > Harris
Gilbert > Furphy

So you have Lipsey over Harris, but then you have Adams to make up for that.

McCullar > MomCilovic
Adams > Tre
Dickinson > BRE
Are we playing 5 games of one-on-one?
 
Apparently, lots of 'bracketologists' believe Alabama is worthy of a 3 seed. This is their resume. They are above ISU. ******* SEC bias.

  • Alabama (18-7)
    • NET Rank: 5
    • Quad 1: 2-6
    • Record against NET Top 25 (as of 2/20): 1-5
    • Win: #7 Auburn
    • Losses: #2 Purdue, @ #9 Creighton, #3 Arizona, @ #6 Tennessee, @ #7 Auburn
    • Other Losses: #65 Ohio State, #28 Clemson
    • Best win outside of NET top 25: #31 Indiana State
 
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Go look at Torivks metrics on individual players. They match up perfectly with what I was thinking just off the top of my head from watching both teams. We would lose 3-2 if you're comparing starting lineups.
If only there was some kind of numbers or something that would prove which line-up was more efficient...
 
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Do a comparison then just using logic. Furphy is going to lose most matchups at the 2, but what other team would beat the Mccullar, Dickinson, Harris trio?

Just do us for comparison.

Lipsey > Harris
Gilbert > Furphy

So you have Lipsey over Harris, but then you have Adams to make up for that.

McCullar > MomCilovic
Adams > Tre
Dickinson > BRE
You're trying to illustrate Kansas has a better 5 based on talent alone. That's not being logical. Logical is using data to support your claims. @goody2012 provided you with the data
 
If only there was some kind of numbers or something that would prove which line-up was more efficient...
That's becuase you're trying to figure out which starting 5 plays well together as a team while I'm figuring out who has the better and more talented players. There's no wrong answers here.

Add up Kansas individual player ratings for their 5, then compare that to ours, it's not really close.
 
All I'm saying is you can't discount their wins over UConn, Kentucky, and Tennesse just because they've lost some Big 12 road games. They've also dominated Houston and beat Baylor without their best player.

You can't brag about how tough the Big 12 is and how it's very difficult to win on the road, then turn around and say they aren't very good because they've lost those road games.

@Cyclonepride wants it both ways.
yeah, i don't know how healthy they've been recently.

Kansas is kansas and Bill Self is a HOF for a reason.

Maybe they'll have an early exit, it's possible just like anyone else, but you can't count them out
 
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