Tough day for EIU hoops hopes

[1UNI2ISU]

Lightbulb.

The 9 seed in the Big Ten tournament is always going to be a bubble team more or less. By not making them play the 16 seed, it exposes them to one less Q3/4 game and the metrics hit that might mean 3 or 4 spots in the NET that could be the difference.

It also saves the 16 seed a loss which might get them into the NIT with the new (asinine) rules regarding selection in that tournament.

 

[CascadeClone]

If you look at bracketmatrix none of those are even bubble teams at present. Ohio St is

Well, they are on the bubble for their own conference tournament.

"We like you, but we don't like like you"

 

[8bitnes]

9 teams bet a bye, 4 of which get a double bye.

is it possible that the ADs are in favor the bottom 3 teams in league play not even making the field?

it saves some travel expense and sometimes you just want the season to be over. Steve Prohm didnt need to make his last trip to KC.

And that league is pretty much guaranteed to have 3 or more trash teams every season. its not like the big 12 which has some bottom dwellers that can surprise you. look at WVU beating Kansas. there is no way that Purdue is getting beat by the worst team in the big 10.

Thank you. I had to pencil it out to see it making sense.

Teams 1-4 auto advance to the quarterfinals
Teams 5-7 play winners of play-in games with a trip to the quarters on the line
Teams 8-9 play each other for a trip to the quarters
Teams 10-15 play with winners advancing to play 5,6,7

 

[Gunnerclone]

They should do the conference tournam nt in pods. Pods are so good that everyone is doing them now.

 

[8bitnes]

Lightbulb.

The 9 seed in the Big Ten tournament is always going to be a bubble team more or less. By not making them play the 16 seed, it exposes them to one less Q3/4 game and the metrics hit that might mean 3 or 4 spots in the NET that could be the difference.

It also saves the 16 seed a loss which might get them into the NIT with the new (asinine) rules regarding selection in that tournament.

Conversely, this puts your 8+9 against each other and pretty much guarantees one is knocked out of the big dance with the early exit vs a quad 2 team while the winner will play the top seed the following day

 

[8bitnes]

I drew up a hypothetical 15-team Big 10 tourney bracket in Paint; couldn't find one easily on the interwebs

 

[mj4cy]

I drew up a hypothetical 15-team Big 10 tourney bracket in Paint; couldn't find one easily on the interwebs
View attachment 122851

I actually like the idea that regular season matters to stay out of the bottom 3.

 

[jaj040]

Why not just do 16 and have a normal tournament

Whoever wins is already too tired to do well in the NCAA tourney as it is now. At least that was the excuse when Iowa last won it.

 

[CascadeClone]

I guess I would keep it simple for 18 teams. Just have the bottom 4 have play-in games, and then those are sacrifices to the 1 and 2 seeds.

Not much advantage to being top in the league - still gotta win 4 games but who cares? Top teams are getting in the NCAA anyway, and maybe one of your middle teams gets hot and wins. It also makes for more excitement, for... (gasp) the fans.

 

[LLCoolCY]

I drew up a hypothetical 15-team Big 10 tourney bracket in Paint; couldn't find one easily on the interwebs
View attachment 122851

 

[BCClone]

Thank you. I had to pencil it out to see it making sense.

Teams 1-4 auto advance to the quarterfinals
Teams 5-7 play winners of play-in games with a trip to the quarters on the line
Teams 8-9 play each other for a trip to the quarters
Teams 10-15 play with winners advancing to play 5,6,7

This gave me a headache trying to picture this bracket.

 

[8bitnes]

This gave me a headache trying to picture this bracket.

Agree, that's why I had to draw it up. Figured sharing it was one step better.

I'm a fan of it. Top four teams get an extra day of rest, bottom three teams lose the opportunity to advance and puts their season out of its misery.
While improbable, five straight days for a team would be rough if a 10-15 somehow survives to the final

 

[stormchaser2014]

Why not just do 16 and have a normal tournament

So Purdue doesn't lose back to back games as a 1 to a 16.

 

[MeanDean]

I guess to bake in more seeding advantages for the top teams? I agree with you, 16 would be better and don't like the idea of teams not playing in the conference tourney.

Number 1 playing number 16. Why does that sound so familiar?

 

[inCyteful]

Any chance they will have Play in Game?

 

[Cyinthenorth]

I am a proponent of allowing fewer teams into their conference tournaments. I think it would especially benefit the one bid leagues to only let the top 4-6 teams in. I hate when a team who has a really good season has to pay the price because they have one off night in early March. Then sub .500 teams get into the madness instead of actually decent teams that may have a shot at pulling an upset

 

[NWICY]

I am a proponent of allowing fewer teams into their conference tournaments. I think it would especially benefit the one bid leagues to only let the top 4-6 teams in. I hate when a team who has a really good season has to pay the price because they have one off night in early March. Then sub .500 teams get into the madness instead of actually decent teams that may have a shot at pulling an upset

The more teams you se d to the conference tournament the more revenue the conference makes. ( at least I would assume)
But I agree with your thought of the best team in the MO valley has a way better chance of success in thr big tourney than like their 4th place team that gets hot and wins the conference tournament.

 

[dafarmer]

Funny you bring up those 3. They are 96, 97, and 98 in NET. Iowa is somehow 64 so much closer to the bubble (but still not really close).

I mean BIG bubble>

 

[Cupped]

Iowa @ Michigan -1.5 getting ready to tip off on FS1 if you need a nap after we destroyed Kansas.

Edit: Nova Butler going into OT. Hok game on FS2

 

[Acylum]

Iowa @ Michigan -1.5 getting ready to tip off on FS1 if you need a nap after we destroyed Kansas.

Edit: Nova Butler going into OT. Hok game on FS2

Wait. Michigan’s favored?