*** Official #2 Houston vs IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***

Tamin Lipsey is amazing. He takes so much abuse and just gets back up and does his job and doesn’t whine.
Hard to underestimate the value of his drives that forced them to foul and got him to the line. Once he started hitting the free throws, it was manufactured offense when things weren't falling for us.
 
Agree. He’s definitely not one of the coaches I particularly like. But he comes from the “old school” ranks, and is really a winner on the floor. Correct, he’s paid his penance. He’s one of those coaches that looks younger than what he really is. Without looking it up, he’s got to be pushing 70.
Never would have guessed . . . . he is 68.
 
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I think this will come with time. He does a lot of other really good things that get deflected as 'no value' but a few posters (not you).

The bench might find some more consistencies as things move along.
i worry it wont
C. Jones has not shown ability to drive to the hoop and between his time at Buffalo and ISU is shooting 13-61 from 3p against top 100 opponents
 
They're not tough to officiate. Call the fouls that are there and they will stop fouling so damn much.
Our guys are good about using their bodies and less hands, but make no mistake, our guys are constantly initiating contact with their bodies out on those double teams and as a way to slow a guy so they can get through screens and recover. But Houston is the game where we'd want it closely called because they foul a ton.

But I do agree in a game last night some early tone-setting fouls should've been called. It was a bit over the top with the physical play, and restricting motion. There were a few really bad misses on fouls though, most memorable was Watson getting pushed OB after an offensive rebound.

I think it's easy to say call a foul a foul, but what early game was it when the game was called tightly and the game had tons of fouls and drug on forever? Everybody just complained about how bad it was. These weren't made up fouls.

Overall this is a problem in CBB that needs everybody on board to fix. You go into the season letting every team, every crew know that the initiating contact and restricting movement is going to get called closely. But it's going to take an offseason of emphasis at least to clean it up.
 
In fairness we got away with some stuff too.

I just don't think we are going to get the benefit of those calls when we have so many guys (Milan and Tre for example) who often fail to block out and/or get caught watching the basketball instead of playing it. There were a good 3-5 offensive boards we gave up where one of those 2 failed to fundamentally do one of those two things. I'm sure the officials see that too and, after a while, it allows the more aggressive and fundamental rebounding team to get away with some extras.
Watson got pushed on a rebound and Rob was getting mugged regularly. I will give the officials one positive though, they called a charge against Houston that has been a block most of the year.
 
Wait are we really complaining about officials in a game we won, were called for 7 less fouls and shot 10 more free throws? We aren't exactly a soft defensive team either. We initiate alot of contact as well.

I thought the game was very, very officiated given how hard our respective teams can be to officiate.
 
Hard to underestimate the value of his drives that forced them to foul and got him to the line. Once he started hitting the free throws, it was manufactured offense when things weren't falling for us.
I think that jumper he hit around the line must have made him realize he was thinking too much on the free throws. You practice them so much, that shot just has to go up by rote.
 
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Both Rob and Ward were pretty damn good. Rob gives up some offensive boards. He just doesn’t quite have the athleticism that Ward has.

Rob is legit awesome on switches and doubles. Like really good. Ward is good too. The fact that these guys can each go hard for 20ish mins means they can be huge for this team.

These guys are also asked to do a fair amount in the offense and inbounds and they don’t turn it over much.
Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that Ward wasn't good. He did have a solid game overall--most efficient player on offense and those alley-oops were absolutely huge. But I do think that Jones's consistency and reliability down the stretch were important, especially defensively.

The two offer a very nice combination of play styles that balance each other well. There will be games this season where Ward's rim protection will be vital, and he'll get 3-4 blocks. It just didn't work out that way last night.
 
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OU imo is a tougher match up for ISU especially on the perimeter. They seemed to have more length.

ISU also wasn't very sharp either but OU played like they had something to prove too.

I disagree with the first sentence, but the second is spot on. Both games had everything to do with our energy level and intensity.

We forced Houston into 16 turnovers, which was their season high by 4.

We only turned OU over 10 times, which was >4 under their season average.

I think, especially with this team, forced turnovers is a good measure of intensity, focus and energy level. It was an A++ last night and maybe a C in Norman.
 
He doesn’t need to do that every night. He might need to pop up with a 10 or 12 point game from time to time. He played solidly again last night. 1 R, 3 AST, 1 ST, 0 TO in 17 minutes in a game in the 50’s. Thats an almost perfect periphery role player line imo.
Curtis was brought in to give ISU points especially from the outside. Average 6-8 points a game should be his role and that's what ISU needs from him to take the next step in the offense. I'm not that worried about defense except for our perimeter defense which is still questionable at times.
 
Williams said it looked like a UFC fight, sitting Courtside. But Who's Tougher is the kind of game TJ is hoping for, I am glad the refs let everyone play........ with the exception of not calling the foul where Watson got pushed out of bounds! That was great movement from him, I wish he would have gotten the call.
 
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TCU did not get hosed.
Haven't watched just seeing the typical stories popping up on the internet. A bunch of KU fans making their typical arguments it doesn't happen in Lawrence. I'm not getting into these debates because I've seen too many years of it and assume TCU got hosed. David McCormack definitely goal tended, and Grill's toe was behind the line a couple years ago. What year was it KU didn't get called for a foul in the last 11:30? I've been to a couple games in Lawrence and it's a bigger joke live. KU gets away with bloody murder all game while visiting schools get called for little contact. Glad we're not going there this season.
 
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Haven't watched just seeing the typical stories popping up on the internet. A bunch of KU fans making their typical arguments it doesn't happen in Lawrence. I'm not getting into these debates because I've seen too many years of it and assume TCU got hosed. David McCormack definitely goal tended, and Grill's toe was behind the line a couple years ago. What year was it KU didn't get called for a foul in the last 11:30? I've been to a couple games in Lawrence and it's a bigger joke live. KU gets away with bloody murder all game while visiting schools get called for little contact. Glad we're not going there this season.
TCU absolutely got screwed very badly at Adidas Fieldhouse, one of the worst officiating screwjobs I've seen.
 

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