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Will ISU make a Bowl Game? YES! Which One? LIBERTY BOWL 12/29

Will ISU make a Bowl Game (Final Record)?

  • No (3-9)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No (4-8)

    Votes: 16 3.9%

  • No (5-7)

    Votes: 127 30.8%

  • Yes (5-7)

    Votes: 31 7.5%

  • Yes (6-6)

    Votes: 189 45.9%

  • Yes (7-5)

    Votes: 43 10.4%

  • Yes (8-4)

    Votes: 5 1.2%

  • Yes (9-3)

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Total voters
    412
  • Poll closed .
Stormin said:
Texas Bowl versus an SEC opponent. Please. Otherwise Liberty Bowl. Lots of fans can drive.
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This is more or less where I'm at. I'd also be good with the bowl in Phoenix as it's close to some family so the trip would be fairly cheap and awesome weather. Only downside there is the date of the game.

Edited to add: I don't think there's much chance we actually drop past Liberty so pretty small chance Phoenix is even in play for ISU.
 
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I only care about our bowl game (and wish this thread wasn't cluttered with irrelevant Playoff and national championship blabber).

For what it is worth, here are the 6 most recent Big 12 participants in each of the bowls that seem possible for us:

Orlando
2022 OU
2021 ISU
2020 OSU
2019 ISU
2018 WVU
2017 OSU

Memphis
2022 KU
2021 TTU
2020 WVU
2019 KSU
2018 OSU
2017 ISU

Houston
2022 TTU
2021 KSU
2020 cancelled
2019 OSU
2018 BU
2017 UT

Here's my attempt to draw significance from this data:

It has been 6 years since we went to Memphis (and only 4 for K-State), so that would seem to increase the possibility that we go back there.

We were in Orlando 2 years ago and 4 years ago. It seems unlikely that we would go there 3 times in 6 years.

K-State was in Houston 2 years ago. I think it is odd for a team to go to the same bowl after 2 years. Pollard must have pulled some serious strings to get us to Orlando in 2019 and 2021.

I started this analysis expecting that it would make me lean more toward Houston, but now I'm starting to lean a bit more toward Memphis, especially with @ChrisMWilliams sounding confident, not just wishful, about Memphis today on the TGNC podcast.

Thus, I just booked a hotel in Memphis.
 
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Playoff and National Championship blabber is not irrelevant.

In fact, it is very relevant to how and where Iowa State ends up.

Texas or No Texas
That is the Question

It’s the main starting point for analysis. And the dominoes fall from there.
 
danvillecyclone said:
Playoff and National Championship blabber is not irrelevant.

In fact, it is very relevant to how and where Iowa State ends up.

Texas or No Texas
That is the Question

It’s the main starting point for analysis. And the dominoes fall from there.
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I actually don't think UT making the playoff will make a difference. The only way they aren't our only NY6 team is if OSU beats them, so that's what matters for bowl placement. And that loss might even be enough to knock UT out of the top 12 anyways.

That said, I'm fine with any CFB postseason discussion in here. Seems like an appropriate place for it, especially since there won't be any new information about our bowl today.
 
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Cycsk said:
Pollard must have pulled some serious strings to get us to Orlando in 2017 and 2019.
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First, it was 2019 and 2021. Probably just a typo on your end.

Second, the only strings AD’s can really pull are guaranteed ticket sales.

Third, Cyclones have a friend as a decision maker in Orlando.

It’s not a coincidence as a university (multiple sports) we have a slight increase in Orlando appearances in the last 6-7 years.
 
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Cyclonscin said:
I actually don't think UT making the playoff will make a difference. The only way they aren't our only NY6 team is if OSU beats them, so that's what matters for bowl placement. And that loss might even be enough to knock UT out of the top 12 anyways.

That said, I'm fine with any CFB postseason discussion in here. Seems like an appropriate place for it, especially since there won't be any new information about our bowl today.
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Yes. I get what you’re saying, it may not matter.

But there are scenarios (as very unlikely that those may be) where Texas makes the CFP and Oklahoma gets a NY6 bowl.

CFP and NY6 decisions matter to the pecking order all the way down to the lowest bowl.

It starts at the top
So to say that discussion is irrelevant, in my opinion, is not accurate.
 
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Cycsk said:
I only care about our bowl game (and wish this thread wasn't cluttered with irrelevant Playoff and national championship blabber).

For what it is worth, here are the 6 most recent Big 12 participants in each of the bowls that seem possible for us:

Orlando
2022 OU
2021 ISU
2020 OSU
2019 ISU
2018 WVU
2017 OSU

Memphis
2022 KU
2021 TTU
2020 WVU
2019 KSU
2018 OSU
2017 ISU

Houston
2022 TTU
2021 KSU
2020 cancelled
2019 OSU
2018 BU
2017 UT

Here's my attempt to draw significance from this data:

It has been 6 years since we went to Memphis (and only 4 for K-State), so that would seem to increase the possibility that we go back there.

We were in Orlando 2 years ago and 4 years ago. It seems unlikely that we would go there 3 times in 6 years.

K-State was in Houston 2 years ago. I think it is odd for a team to go to the same bowl after 2 years. Pollard must have pulled some serious strings to get us to Orlando in 2017 and 2019.

I started this analysis expecting that it would make me lean more toward Houston, but now I'm starting to lean a bit more toward Memphis, especially with @ChrisMWilliams sounding confident, not just wishful, about Memphis today on the TGNC podcast.

Thus, I just booked a hotel in Memphis.
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I've been trying to find ways to lean towards Houston and keep getting back to a Memphis lean...

The fact that K State has never played a bowl game in Florida may give them an edge there. Assuming everything else goes as scripted Saturday, Okie State is a probably the pick for Houston landing us in Memphis.

I still think we have a chance at any of those 3 based on other factors but would put it at
Memphis - 60%
Houston - 30%
Orlando - 10%
 
Cycsk said:
I only care about our bowl game (and wish this thread wasn't cluttered with irrelevant Playoff and national championship blabber).

For what it is worth, here are the 6 most recent Big 12 participants in each of the bowls that seem possible for us:

Orlando
2022 OU
2021 ISU
2020 OSU
2019 ISU
2018 WVU
2017 OSU

Memphis
2022 KU
2021 TTU
2020 WVU
2019 KSU
2018 OSU
2017 ISU

Houston
2022 TTU
2021 KSU
2020 cancelled
2019 OSU
2018 BU
2017 UT

Here's my attempt to draw significance from this data:

It has been 6 years since we went to Memphis (and only 4 for K-State), so that would seem to increase the possibility that we go back there.

We were in Orlando 2 years ago and 4 years ago. It seems unlikely that we would go there 3 times in 6 years.

K-State was in Houston 2 years ago. I think it is odd for a team to go to the same bowl after 2 years. Pollard must have pulled some serious strings to get us to Orlando in 2017 and 2019.

I started this analysis expecting that it would make me lean more toward Houston, but now I'm starting to lean a bit more toward Memphis, especially with @ChrisMWilliams sounding confident, not just wishful, about Memphis today on the TGNC podcast.

Thus, I just booked a hotel in Memphis.
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I think the Liberty bowl would be fine as long as its not against Memphis. We've been down that road last time and don't need to again. If its someone like SMU, that would be kinda cool considering they are moving to the ACC next year.
 
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Gotta think it’s looking like Liberty. As others said that’s probably fine (remember how the season began, after all) but not playing Memphis … SMU or an SEC team (if that league even has enough for the slot)
 
VeloClone said:
You are right, I was thinking OSU wasn't conference champ but they were that year.

Sorry.
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No worries. I can't remember anymore which of the 4 that got in we felt was undeserving.

Still think it was dumb of Bowlsby to say they were "co-champions" - that kind of tanked them both. Should have just said Baylor won H2H so there's your tiebreaker.

Baylor was real good, they might have got in over Oregon...
 
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CascadeClone said:
No worries. I can't remember anymore which of the 4 that got in we felt was undeserving.

Still think it was dumb of Bowlsby to say they were "co-champions" - that kind of tanked them both. Should have just said Baylor won H2H so there's your tiebreaker.

Baylor was real good, they might have got in over Oregon...
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It bothered me sooooo much that we spent the whole damn year advertising the Big XII's "One True Champion" only to crown co-champions.

In fact, it still bothers me. What a crock.
 
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CascadeClone said:
No worries. I can't remember anymore which of the 4 that got in we felt was undeserving.

Still think it was dumb of Bowlsby to say they were "co-champions" - that kind of tanked them both. Should have just said Baylor won H2H so there's your tiebreaker.

Baylor was real good, they might have got in over Oregon...
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Ohio State was behind them both before the Big 10 CCG and then jumped them both after it.

I think it is a bit pollyanna to think that declaring one of the teams a sole champion would have made a shred of difference. If he had done that they would have come up with another excuse - hell they already had the "thirteenth data point" argument even though the difference between the teams' schedules was an additional buy game since the big 10 was only playing 8 conference games at the time while the Big 12 teams were playing 9. So a game at Navy or a home game against Kent State or Cincy was the difference? I would throw the home game against Virginia Tech in there but that was their loss...

Laughable.
 
Actually, the Texas CFP and OU NY6 isn’t as far fetched as I initially thought.

Texas is 1.55-1 to make the CFP
Oklahoma is ranked 12 in the CFP Rankings

But Texas to make the CFP, it seems FSU has to lose which would bump Louisville above OU.

So at that point it would be will OU jump FSU or even Bama if Georgia wins easily (Auburn should have beaten Bama).

So our best scenario is for UT and OU to finish as high as possible.

Well, higher bowl that is….

If anyone sees errors or other scenarios, please oblige!
 
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