Coaching Staff In The First Half

People will be gassed if you're just running tempo all the time.
The average # of plays in a game is 69. Plays don't last 5 seconds. Add some extra plays. That's 6 min+ exertion over 3-1/2 hours. Are you saying 20yr old well conditioned athletes can't handle that? There are numerous other sports that engage for a lot longer.
 
The average # of plays in a game is 69. Plays don't last 5 seconds. Add some extra plays. That's 6 min+ exertion over 3-1/2 hours. Are you saying 20yr old well conditioned athletes can't handle that? There are numerous other sports that engage for a lot longer.

I'll just leave it at that it's not that simple or easy.

Otherwise it would be what everyone does and they don't, among other things.
 
Campbell said we were a ”hair off” on a couple of opportunities. He talks about precision and margins and makes stupid coaching decisions every game. Guy needs to man up and say he is the part of the problem. One of the worst game time coaches. Just pathetic.
Many times designs are built around margins that are too tight and are unforgiving for the smallest of errors which ALWAYS occur. That is why there are allowable margins (tolerance) for errors.
 
Uuuhhhh….we are still zone blocking unlike hole blocking like the first 3 games. So I’m not seeing how we are doing the exact same things as before. Our line was the problem. Some went upfield too soon and allowed defenders clean shots at the back.
I sent you a direct message since I didn't want to put the whole un packing into the thread. Though I guess I can if you would rather.
 
@iccyfan

You rated the post dumb. But it is well recognized by pretty much everyone including CW, Aidan Wyatt, Ben Bruns, Blum, etc. Our problems in coverage when Verdon or Cooper are not playing is pretty apparent.
That's because if you have problems in the back, you better do something different.

Putting pressure on an error prone quarterback makes way more sense then hoping subs can cover longer.

Our rush was mostly nonexistent.
 
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That's because if you have problems in the back, you better do something different.

Putting pressure on an error prone quarterback makes way more sense then hoping subs can cover longer.

Our rush was mostly nonexistent.

Fact remains that our defense has problems when Verdon and/or Cooper are out with injury.

So @iccyfan must not agree with that. Even though everyone acknowledges it.
 
It's amazing how many of you are coaches and/or have played high level football!

I think there's plenty of room to question/wonder about decisions that any coach makes. Too many people are far too sure they know exactly what is going on and if someone just does it the way they think they should only success will follow.

Last night I think it is fair to wonder if the game plan went back to the Ohio type game plan and if so why would they do that. Hell, I wonder if it did. But I think it is silly to assume that any of us actually know that it did. There's far too many on here that are certain that it did. We don't know what adjustments were tried/made and why. Ben Bruns who certainly knows more than all of us (but obviously can be wrong) said he didn't think there was some shift back to old play calling.

It's kind of like Hines tweeting last night that he could manage the clock better than most coaches. It makes me wonder why he's making $50k writing about it.
 
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So with a depleted secondary, you think the smart thing to do is, what, put MORE pressure on them?

Make them cover for longer?

Against a QB that has shown he gets rattled?

Yeah, he can run. But he can also make huge mistakes and turn the ball over.

ISU got completely outcoached in the first half.

Old Mt. Union Matty just stick with it though. Gotta execute!

LOL.

Average posts per day after a win: 0

Average posts per day after a loss: too many to count
 
It's amazing how many of you are coaches and/or have played high level football!

I think there's plenty of room to question/wonder about decisions that any coach makes. Too many people are far too sure they know exactly what is going on and if someone just does it the way they think they should only success will follow.

Last night I think it is fair to wonder if the game plan went back to the Ohio type game plan and if so why would they do that. Hell, I wonder if it did. But I think it is silly to assume that any of us actually know that it did. There's far too many on here that are certain that it did. We don't know what adjustments were tried/made and why. Ben Bruns who certainly knows more than all of us (but obviously can be wrong) said he didn't think there was some shift back to old play calling.

It's kind of like Hines tweeting last night that he could manage the clock better than most coaches. It makes me wonder why he's making $50k writing about it.

Even playing/coaching small town high school football is beyond what the casual bleachers parent knows for what's going on for personnel, strengths, rationale behind all sorts of decisions etc.

That said I will always and forever question the tactic of following an explosive/chunk play to the 10 or 15 yard line with pulling up and slow rolling a long developing run play up the middle especially if there's some receivers and TEs with some length.

It's the 2nd down that you maybe take some time to settle in if the 1st down didn't work.
 
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Even playing/coaching small town high school football is beyond what the casual bleachers parent knows for what's going on for personnel, strengths, rationale behind all sorts of decisions etc.

That said I will always and forever question the tactic of following an explosive/chunk play to the 10 or 15 yard line with pulling up and slow rolling a long developing run play up the middle especially if there's some receivers and TEs with some length.

It's the 2nd down that you maybe take some time to settle in if the 1st down didn't work.

I think that's fine. I think it's mostly fine to question/wonder etc.

I just get annoyed when we all assume that we KNOW. We know what the best way to attack a team. We know when is the best time to make adjustments. We just don't.

Now the one thing we ALL know is that you don't ******* call a play dead like they did last night. And we also all know that an OBVIOUS incomplete pass is not a god damned fumble. ;)
 
I think that's fine. I think it's mostly fine to question/wonder etc.

I just get annoyed when we all assume that we KNOW. We know what the best way to attack a team. We know when is the best time to make adjustments. We just don't.

Now the one thing we ALL know is that you don't ******* call a play dead like they did last night. And we also all know that an OBVIOUS incomplete pass is not a god damned fumble. ;)
I was talking on the phone with someone with the volume down during the replays of that so wasn't sure what they were even trying to see. I was like 'was it Nebraska/Mizzou '97 off the foot? Are they saying he caught it and dropped it?'.

That was just weird in a weird game.
 
I think on defense we sold out to shut down the run and dared them to beat us in the air. And they did. I don’t really have a problem with that. Props to Bean and the OC play calls.

I think the coaching move i had the most problem with was using a timeout on 1st and 5 in the 3rd quarter down 18. I told my buddies that I guaranteed that timeout would end up costing a late possession in a close game in the 4th. And it was. No way you call that timeout there.
 
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I think on defense we sold out to shut down the run and dared them to beat us in the air. And they did. I don’t really have a problem with that. Props to Bean and the OC play calls.

I think the coaching move i had the most problem with was using a timeout on 1st and 5 in the 3rd quarter down 18. I told my buddies that I guaranteed that timeout would end up costing a late possession in a close game in the 4th. And it was. No way you call that timeout there.

Getting plays in late or not getting them in at all and having to burn one are a common theme of this tenure.
 
I was talking on the phone with someone with the volume down during the replays of that so wasn't sure what they were even trying to see. I was like 'was it Nebraska/Mizzou '97 off the foot? Are they saying he caught it and dropped it?'.

That was just weird in a weird game.

I assume they thought that Rocco had fumbled it. But it was so clearly a pass. He wasn't flinging it or tossing it. He was clearly passing it. And it was crazy to me that it took so long to over turn it. It shouldn't have ever been called a fumble, but it should have taken 2 seconds to overturn that crap. If it wasn't a pass, we should just pick up every incomplete pass and start running it back.

That play happened right in front of us and let's just say that Section 2 was livid. We probably would have stormed the field ourselves.
 
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@iccyfan

You rated the post dumb. But it is well recognized by pretty much everyone including CW, Aidan Wyatt, Ben Bruns, Blum, etc. Our problems in coverage when Verdon or Cooper are not playing is pretty apparent.
Verdon played, and what does your post have to do with the performance of the coaching staff in the first half?

Why did the team come out “flat” in a huge game? Why did the game plan yield zero points against a below average defense in our first six possessions?

You handed out more dumbs in October than I have in twenty years, yet you make excuses galore and add little other than to defend CMC like he’s your nephew.

While I agree Cooper is an excellent player, every team is missing important pieces at this time of year. KU is without the preseason Big XII Offensive Player of the Year. Evidently Lance Leipold is capable of readying backup players to fill important roles.
 
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I think on defense we sold out to shut down the run and dared them to beat us in the air. And they did. I don’t really have a problem with that. Props to Bean and the OC play calls.

I think the coaching move i had the most problem with was using a timeout on 1st and 5 in the 3rd quarter down 18. I told my buddies that I guaranteed that timeout would end up costing a late possession in a close game in the 4th. And it was. No way you call that timeout there.

I thought there was a weird thing with the clock during that mess. If it is the time I'm thinking of, Rocco and the players were pointing at the clock and then we were forced to take the timeout.
 
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It's amazing how many of you are coaches and/or have played high level football!

I think there's plenty of room to question/wonder about decisions that any coach makes. Too many people are far too sure they know exactly what is going on and if someone just does it the way they think they should only success will follow.

Last night I think it is fair to wonder if the game plan went back to the Ohio type game plan and if so why would they do that. Hell, I wonder if it did. But I think it is silly to assume that any of us actually know that it did. There's far too many on here that are certain that it did. We don't know what adjustments were tried/made and why. Ben Bruns who certainly knows more than all of us (but obviously can be wrong) said he didn't think there was some shift back to old play calling.

It's kind of like Hines tweeting last night that he could manage the clock better than most coaches. It makes me wonder why he's making $50k writing about it.

You don’t need to be a coaching expert to recognize that (1) punting at the other side’s 37 yard line is a dumb play, (2) trying the same offensive plays that don’t work over and over again is insane, and (3) when you’re down by 2-3 scores you can’t burn all your time off the clock or waste your timeouts needlessly.

The refusal of many on this board to believe or appreciate what they see with their own eyes is cult-like.
 
You don’t need to be a coaching expert to recognize that (1) punting at the other side’s 37 yard line is a dumb play, (2) trying the same offensive plays that don’t work over and over again is insane, and (3) when you’re down by 2-3 scores you can’t burn all your time off the clock or waste your timeouts needlessly.

The refusal of many on this board to believe or appreciate what they see with their own eyes is cult-like.

You're a great coach!
 
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