F*CK IOWA

[Lewey24]

There are a list of penalties that can be created within the review once it is opened up. Advancement of a fair catch is not listed under those plays same as holding, PI etc...

Invalid signal is, again, not a penalty. The fact that you all can’t understand that is an indictment on the academics in Iowa City.

 

[cyspy]

Invalid signal is, again, not a penalty. The fact that you all can’t understand that is an indictment on the academics in Iowa City.

The invalid fair catch signal in college is not a penalty,the ball is dead where the invalid signal took place. It is a five yard penalty in the NFL marked off from where the invalid signal took place.

 

[Pitt_Clone]

NCAA national coordinator of officials included this in his weekly rules/review explanation video

The play he went over after the Iowa play was pretty interesting too, with two 15 yard penalties assessed on one play, because one was live ball and one was dead ball. Don't think I'd ever seen that before.

 

[cyphoon]

The invalid fair catch signal in college is not a penalty,the ball is dead where the invalid signal took place. It is a five yard penalty in the NFL marked off from where the invalid signal took place.

It is in a penalty in college if you catch the ball and run more than two yards after making a valid or invalid fair catch signal. Don't think they could tack that on via review.

Tell your hok friends that Minnesota is the team that got screwed on this play. They were robbed of that 5 yards. lol

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[Lewey24]

It is in a penalty in college if you catch the ball and run more than two yards after making a valid or invalid fair catch signal. Don't think they could tack that on via review.

Tell your hok friends that Minnesota is the team that got screwed on this play. They were robbed of that 5 yards. lol

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Yep, if you run it after they blow it dead, it’s delay of game. That penalty is not reviewable. However, the dead ball condition is reviewable.

 

[JayV]

Yep, if you run it after they blow it dead, it’s delay of game. That penalty is not reviewable. However, the dead ball condition is reviewable.

Yes. Once it's a dead ball, you get the ball to an official so they can spot it and continue the game. If you don't, such as advancing the ball after a fair catch, it can be a 5-yard delay of game penalty.

 

[2speedy1]

Again, you don't want to go down this rabbit hole. It is murky I admit and hard to follow.

Basically, the allowable reviewable plays state that you can review "advancement of a fair catch", which they interpret as both valid and invalid fair catches and obviously what happened as it doesn't become illegal until Cooper advances the ball.

However, it is a 5 yard penalty for "advancement of a fair catch", and the replay official simply called it Invalid Fair Catch and dead ball at the place of where Cooper fielded the punt.

Why would they do that and not give Iowa a 5 yard penalty as they should have?

Because "advancement of a fair catch" isn't allowed in the penalized play list that can be created in the review booth. The Big 10 office used the reasoning of "advancement of a fair catch" as the reasoning why the play was open to review, but then didn't use that in their conclusion because they can't go back to review and create a penalty for that.

You as well as other hawks have said they cant go back and add a penalty in replay, besides targeting, which they didnt.

So you answered your own question. They reviewed, the TD play, they reviewed the Dead Ball Spot, they reviewed a Fair Catch Signal and finally they reviewed the play that happened in the last 2 mins as all are. All reviewable. Then only spotted the ball in the correct Dead Ball Spot, and did not enforce any penalties, because as you have said they cant go back and add penalties after the play in review.

You are talking in circles, and the review was legal in many ways, they did not add a penalty, they just found the correct dead ball spot, due to the invalid fair catch signal.

My god its like arguing with a 2 year old.

 

[madguy30]

There are a list of penalties that can be created within the review once it is opened up. Advancement of a fair catch is not listed under those plays same as holding, PI etc...

It wasn't a fair catch.

 

[Cyhig]

@iahawks

You have gone on record saying Cooper was waving his arms and it was an invalid fair catch. But Iowa fans here have then claimed the touchdown should had counted because the players didn’t stop, PJ Fleck didn’t react like a coach should if it was an illegal act, the play isn’t reviewable, it’s not fair because it isn’t called often, and many other excuses. All the while admitting Cooper did in fact make an invalid fair catch.

So you want a touchdown to count even though you admit you know it shouldn’t count. Luckily for us Seinfeld has a clip for you

 

[cycloner29]

Love how the news anchor on WHO talks about an upcoming story on the show about how the NCAA made a wrong call as they show DeJean waving on the punt play. The announcer then says it was the on the targeting call. Hawk lovers on WHO never cease to amaze.

 

[GoldCy]

I guess I don't understand what the crown of the helmet is.

 

[BCClone]

Pretty much sums it up yes

Missed the part where Cooper said he signals fair catch only with his right hand and not left, Minny should know that.

 

[BCClone]

He really didn't leap over anything, but if he was it would be the gap. He attempted to leap through the gap that was there and got clipped by the Minny player on the side of his body as he was trying to get through. There were only two Minny players as part of their punt shield. A lot of teams use three and thus no gap. The two minny players were pretty far apart.

There is his problem, instead of leaping over the gap, he should have ran through it and blocked the punt. He cost the team by trying to jump over open space for some dumb reason

 

[flycy]

Yep, I agree, as a matter of fact I think all plays are reviewable now.

However, invalid fair catch signals cannot be a part of those reviews as they aren't listed as plays up for review. Advancement of a fair catch are a part of those reviews and what the Big 10 said they used in order to include that into the review. But advancement of a fair catch is a five yard penalty and that isn't listed under the list of penalty plays that can be created while under review if it wasn't called on the field.

Absolutely wrong. There are only a few penalties that can be reviewed, advancement of a fair catch delay of game is not one of them, but whether the play was dead due to an invalid fair catch signal is absolutely reviewable, and it is so even if there wasn't a score. The right call and review procedure was definitely followed here. The only error was not immediately calling the play dead on the field. Luckily for the integrity of the sport they were able to correct their error, so the officials did not hand a victory to Iowa. Iowa merely needed to drive 20 yards for a kick to earn the victory and they could not.

 

[Remo Gaggi]

I was always a Stanley fan but yes in retrospect he looks like Montana

With running quarterback in particular is there any team that it would fit better than Kirk's philosophy of not turning ball over, low mistakes playing too defense? I mean we should probably go back 1 or 2 more decades than are 90's style and adapt the option and power I

Maybe the next coach will think differently. Win or lose, having a team that can roll up yardage and score points is much more entertaining to watch.

 

[CloneLawman]

Kirk does a lot of that too.

Question for iahawks...do you have a day job?

Recruiting coordinator for Iowa football.

 

[nfrine]

Recruiting coordinator for Iowa football.

He needs to recruit folks that don't flap their hands when they run.

 

[dafarmer]

I am still waiting on the fine that the BIG levied of the Iowa crowd for the trash thrown on the field. What's it been, going on 5 days. Maybe the NCAA needs to put the hammer down on the BIG and the Iowa hooligans.

 

[CloneLawman]

He needs to recruit folks that don't flap their hands when they run.

Cooper "Jazz Hands" Dejean

 

[CYme]

The play he went over after the Iowa play was pretty interesting too, with two 15 yard penalties assessed on one play, because one was live ball and one was dead ball. Don't think I'd ever seen that before.

After rewatching that video, 5 or 6 MN defenders slowed up in a group and then tried to get going again, honestly appeared shocked that dejean started returning the ball. That left arm circling around in the air , waving back and forth did have an impact.