F*CK IOWA

LOL, why is he still moving to his side then, also remember the Iowa player is in a dead sprint. He saw the gap and leapt for it, in no instance did he jump over him. He was to the side of him when he got hit.
Breaking News: Players can move side to side. Intent doesn't matter. The Minnesota player was clearly in the way when the Iowa player leapt which means the Iowa player leapt in the space above the Minnesota players frame, which is a penalty.
 
I’m sorry. Where did Fleck confirm this? All we know is the big 10 confirmed 1) the Iowa player should had been called for leaping and 2) the “invalid fair catch” was the correct call. Everything else is just your opinion, which means absolutely nothing. Media members won’t come to you and ask your your opinion, just like they won’t come to me and ask for my opinion. Which is why rational people here are using information as confirmed by representatives of officials/conferences.
I get this is hard for Iowa fans to comprehend. Which is why this is still being discussed 5 days later!!

Next time Iowa fans want to complain about officiating, complain when the wrong call was actually made….
You're the one complaining about a call that wasn't made and for good reason IMO. Fleck said the Big 10 confirmed it. I haven't heard that from the Big 10 and even they probably get it wrong from time to time as well. This was a bang bang play that can't be reviewed, so not sure why it would be confirmed in review in the first place.
 
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LOL, why is he still moving to his side then, also remember the Iowa player is in a dead sprint. He saw the gap and leapt for it, in no instance did he jump over him. He was to the side of him when he got hit.
Who gives a rip what you think? The Big 10 Conference has stated the Iowa invalid fair catch was the correct call, and the Iowa leaping was a missed call.

Move on or take your crap to a Hawkeye message board that cares.
 
Who gives a rip what you think? The Big 10 Conference has stated the Iowa invalid fair catch was the correct call, and the Iowa leaping was a missed call.

Move on or take your crap to a Hawkeye message board that cares.
You guys clearly do. Fleck confirmed that the Big 10 did, haven't heard from the conference itself. Also, this isn't a reviewable play on the field so not sure why any confirmation after the fact would matter at all.
 
You're the one complaining about a call that wasn't made and for good reason IMO. Fleck said the Big 10 confirmed it. I haven't heard that from the Big 10 and even they probably get it wrong from time to time as well. This was a bang bang play that can't be reviewed, so not sure why it would be confirmed in review in the first place.
No - I was pointing out that the big 10 conference said there should had been a penalty on Iowa for leaping, which would had given Minnesota a first down and negating the “invalid fair catch” and subsequent punt return.

I’m not “complaining.” I’m informing Iowa fans of what the official big 10 response was to the play. They also said the invalid fair catch was the correct call.

Iowa fans are the ones complaining. Everyone else is trying to demonstrate why their rationale of the punt return should stand isn’t valid
 
No - I was pointing out that the big 10 conference said there should had been a penalty on Iowa for leaping, which would had given Minnesota a first down and negating the “invalid fair catch” and subsequent punt return.

I’m not “complaining.” I’m informing Iowa fans of what the official big 10 response was to the play. They also said the invalid fair catch was the correct call.

Iowa fans are the ones complaining. Everyone else is trying to demonstrate why their rationale of the punt return should stand isn’t valid
I already said the waving was the right technical call. I do agree the "leaping" should have been and remain a no call. You can't convince me he leapt over the blocker when he got hit on the side of his body.
 
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You guys clearly do. Fleck confirmed that the Big 10 did, haven't heard from the conference itself. Also, this isn't a reviewable play on the field so not sure why any confirmation after the fact would matter at all.
College coaches submit plays to the conference every week to have them reviewed.

I already said the waving was the right technical call. I do agree the "leaping" should have been and remain a no call. You can't convince me he leapt over the blocker when he got hit on the side of his body.

If he got hit, there's a good chance he leapt above his frame, which is a penalty.
 
College coaches submit plays to the conference every week to have them reviewed.



If he got hit, there's a good chance he leapt above his frame, which is a penalty.
Yes, coaches do this, but it isn't reviewable during the game. It was a bang bang play with fast moving parts. I look at it and say he leapt through a gap and got clipped on the way through, you look at and say he leapt over the player. This isn't black and white and I feel it was a good no call on this particular play and the refs on the field got it right.
 
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Yes, coaches do this, but it isn't reviewable during the game. It was a bang bang play with fast moving parts. I look at it and say he leapt through a gap and got clipped on the way through, you look at and say he leapt over the player. This isn't black and white and I feel it was a good no call on this particular play and the refs on the field got it right.
It seems the Big 10 officials disagreed with the refs on the field.
 
I already said the waving was the right technical call. I do agree the "leaping" should have been and remain a no call. You can't convince me he leapt over the blocker when he got hit on the side of his body.
Because he started the leap when he was in front of the blocker. Again, I’m not persuading you, I’m telling the conference said there should had been a penalty. You can not agree to that decision, but it doesn’t change the fact the conference felt that was a penalty. Usually conferences will inform the impacted teams so they are aware that a penalty may be called on another similar play in the future.

Disagree all you want…. It won’t change what the conference said about the leap
 
Because he started the leap when he was in front of the blocker. Again, I’m not persuading you, I’m telling the conference said there should had been a penalty. You can not agree to that decision, but it doesn’t change the fact the conference felt that was a penalty. Usually conferences will inform the impacted teams so they are aware that a penalty may be called on another similar play in the future.

Disagree all you want…. It won’t change what the conference said about the leap
I've yet to hear the conference say this.
 
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Because not everything the conference says is published publicly. Most of the time the conference will send an internal memo to impacted teams.
But yet not a reviewable play during the game. Calls like this are very subjective and open to interpretation, which is also why it wasn't called on the field and why they can't be overturned on review during the game.
 
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But yet not a reviewable play during the game. Calls like this are very subjective and open to interpretation, which is also why it wasn't called on the field and why they can't be overturned on review during the game.
Correct. It’s not reviewable. Which is why the conference can send a memo to teams informing them a call was missed and if a similar instance occurred it can be called for a penalty. This way Iowa (in this case) can reinforce proper techniques/rules for blocking kicks so a penalty wouldn’t be called on them in the future, especially in a critical situation

It’s a called a learning experience.
 
Correct. It’s not reviewable. Which is why the conference can send a memo to teams informing them a call was missed and if a similar instance occurred it can be called for a penalty. This way Iowa (in this case) can reinforce proper techniques/rules for blocking kicks so a penalty wouldn’t be called on them in the future, especially in a critical situation

It’s a called a learning experience.
And he never leapt directly over the frame of a player. He leapt for the gap and got clipped on the side of his body.
 
And he never leapt directly over the frame of a player. He leapt for the gap and got clipped on the side of his body.
Again, that’s your OPINION. The conference felt differently and also felt the need to inform the impacted teams so they can ensure they change their techniques/won’t get penalized for it in the future

Not sure why this tough to comprehend. It’s about as simple as I can explain this
 

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