F*CK IOWA

I agree with you, just tough to stomach and ISU fans would be crying all over the internet like Iowa fans are if it happened to them in this fashion as well. Enjoy the tears.
Just because you don't know the rule and the referees enforced the rule correctly, don't assume every other fanbase out there would react the same way. I said it that night on here. When he took off running with the ball, I looked at my wife and said, "Didn't he call for a fair catch?"

Honestly, if ISU did this and it happened the exact way to us, I'd honestly just chalk it up to another boneheaded Special Teams play that has cost us numerous games in the past. I certainly wouldn't be pissed that the officials made a 100% correct call. I think it's so shocking to Iowa fans because their Special Teams is usually what wins them games, it's strange to see when it goes wrong.
 
I agree with you, just tough to stomach and ISU fans would be crying all over the internet like Iowa fans are if it happened to them in this fashion as well. Enjoy the tears.
At least Iowa State fans don’t throw objects onto the field. And yes… we are enjoying the “tears”. Iowa fans finally get a small taste of what ISU goes through on a regular basis. Too bad Iowa couldn’t gain 20 yards after that call to get into field goal range to win the game.

I remember the “taunting” call against X. It was far worse than this call. Yet Iowa State responded by still scoring a touchdown.

Iowa fans can cry all they want. The correct call was made for that play. Iowa still had a chance to win, but failed. Iowa only had 12 yards of offense the entire second half. Iowa lost, for many reasons other than one call by the officials that was actually correct
 
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That was one of the biggest kick to the nuts I've ever had as a sports fan and I've had a lot. Probably because I was at the game, which made it worse and the fact that no one knew this rule existed before, which again is compounded by being at the game because you don't get the immediate explanation of what the heck happened.

What makes it hard is that it is maybe technically the correct call, but how many calls don't get made that could be technically the correct call over the course of a game? What Cooper did was not deliberate and no one in the stadium including the opposing fans, coaching staff and players thought for even one second that Cooper called anything close to a fair catch.

Cooper was trying to get Iowa players away from the football by waving below the shoulders with his left arm and pointing with his right arm when he was still a long ways away from the ball. Then when he gets to the area of the ball landing, he fields the punt and dodges immediate tackle attempts by Minnesota and then busted it for a TD. Then after a lengthy review they called the invalid signal reversal. It was really stuff to stomach then and still bad now as what Cooper did had no bearing on the outcome of that play IMO.

Again just a kick to the nuts. Stadium went from don't think we could win, to an amazing play, then a review where we all thought they were reviewing if he was in bounds and then stadium goes crazy again when they showed him clearly in bounds to the invalid signal call. Just a crazy swing of emotions in a short amount of time.
Alternative view - the call made was clearly correct, and Minnesota would have absolutely gotten hosed if it wasn’t made. This is different from the Iowa State field goal against Ohio where there was some ambiguity as to whether the ref was right or not. The rule says no waving of the arms. He waved his arms a lot.
 
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That was one of the biggest kick to the nuts I've ever had as a sports fan and I've had a lot. Probably because I was at the game, which made it worse and the fact that no one knew this rule existed before, which again is compounded by being at the game because you don't get the immediate explanation of what the heck happened.

What makes it hard is that it is maybe technically the correct call, but how many calls don't get made that could be technically the correct call over the course of a game? What Cooper did was not deliberate and no one in the stadium including the opposing fans, coaching staff and players thought for even one second that Cooper called anything close to a fair catch.

Cooper was trying to get Iowa players away from the football by waving below the shoulders with his left arm and pointing with his right arm when he was still a long ways away from the ball. Then when he gets to the area of the ball landing, he fields the punt and dodges immediate tackle attempts by Minnesota and then busted it for a TD. Then after a lengthy review they called the invalid signal reversal. It was really stuff to stomach then and still bad now as what Cooper did had no bearing on the outcome of that play IMO.

Again just a kick to the nuts. Stadium went from don't think we could win, to an amazing play, then a review where we all thought they were reviewing if he was in bounds and then stadium goes crazy again when they showed him clearly in bounds to the invalid signal call. Just a crazy swing of emotions in a short amount of time.
But Cooper said he wasn't directing traffic. He says he just runs funny.
 
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I agree with you, just tough to stomach and ISU fans would be crying all over the internet like Iowa fans are if it happened to them in this fashion as well. Enjoy the tears.
But we wouldn't have thrown full beer cans or water bottles at the opposing team. Hope you guys get fined or sanctioned big time by the B1G Ten.
 
At least Iowa State fans don’t throw objects onto the field. And yes… we are enjoying the “tears”. Iowa fans finally get a small taste of what ISU goes throw on a regular basis. Too bad Iowa couldn’t gain 20 yards after that call to get into field goal range to win the game.

I remember the “taunting” call against X. It was far worse than this call. Yet Iowa State responded by still scoring a touchdown.

Iowa fans can cry all they want. The correct call was made for that play. Iowa still had a chance to win, but failed. Iowa only had 12 yards of offense the entire second half. Iowa lost, for many reasons other than one call by the officials that was actually correct
I was told ISU fans don't boo there team either and that is incorrect. I do agree that Iowa was still in a great place to win the game after they brought back the punt return and then threw an INT. Hard to blame the refs with the offensive ineptitude of this team the past three seasons.
 
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I was told ISU fans don't boo there team either and that is incorrect. I do agree that Iowa was still in a great place to win the game after they brought back the punt return and then threw an INT. Hard to blame the refs with the offensive ineptitude of this team the past three seasons.
Now you are lying to make up for you posts. This is flat out wrong
 
I agree with you, just tough to stomach and ISU fans would be crying all over the internet like Iowa fans are if it happened to them in this fashion as well. Enjoy the tears.

Not a good comparison. Usually when ISU fans cry all over the internet about officiating, it's an actual blown call. Additionally, these blown calls are usually called out by national media and/or the Big 12 office. Finally, when that happens to ISU, Iowa fans are notorious for telling ISU, "Don't put yourself in the position to allow the refs to affect the game." Seems like Iowa fans should follow their own advice.
 
I was told ISU fans don't boo there team either and that is incorrect. I do agree that Iowa was still in a great place to win the game after they brought back the punt return and then threw an INT. Hard to blame the refs with the offensive ineptitude of this team the past three seasons.
ISU fans boo. But "booing" is far less harmful than hurling objects onto the field. I'm sure your spirit squad appreciated being hit in the head with bottles and beer.
 
I doesn't matter what coaches, players,, or fans knew the rule, the intent of waving his hand around, or the result of the play. The only thing that matters is the refs knew the rule and made the correct call by the rule book.

Dejean is a good enough player to know in the future I won't shake my hands or gesture in any waving motion that could be interpreted as a fair catch if I think I can return the ball. Whether or not the coaches admit the fault behind closed doors and teach him not to, he should be able to figure this one out on his own.
 
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I agree with you, just tough to stomach and ISU fans would be crying all over the internet like Iowa fans are if it happened to them in this fashion as well. Enjoy the tears.
I am changing my thoughts on this call. I think the refs blew it. They missed the 5 yard delay of game penalty. I guarantee they would have called it if this happened to ISU. You got off easy.
 
That was one of the biggest kick to the nuts I've ever had as a sports fan and I've had a lot. Probably because I was at the game, which made it worse and the fact that no one knew this rule existed before, which again is compounded by being at the game because you don't get the immediate explanation of what the heck happened.

What makes it hard is that it is maybe technically the correct call, but how many calls don't get made that could be technically the correct call over the course of a game? What Cooper did was not deliberate and no one in the stadium including the opposing fans, coaching staff and players thought for even one second that Cooper called anything close to a fair catch.

Cooper was trying to get Iowa players away from the football by waving below the shoulders with his left arm and pointing with his right arm when he was still a long ways away from the ball. Then when he gets to the area of the ball landing, he fields the punt and dodges immediate tackle attempts by Minnesota and then busted it for a TD. Then after a lengthy review they called the invalid signal reversal. It was really stuff to stomach then and still bad now as what Cooper did had no bearing on the outcome of that play IMO.

Again just a kick to the nuts. Stadium went from don't think we could win, to an amazing play, then a review where we all thought they were reviewing if he was in bounds and then stadium goes crazy again when they showed him clearly in bounds to the invalid signal call. Just a crazy swing of emotions in a short amount of time.


One could technically say it wasn't deliberate......but are you sure? Why would captain Kirk say that's just the way he runs?

Most of the time a returner wanting to get his players away from a punt he cannot field.....he uses both arms to point and runs away from the ball.

I am more than sure that he has been coached to not wave in any way, form or fashion and MAYBE in the heat of the moment he did what he did...no foul...no penalty, but rule is once you start waving you cannot then field and advance the ball.

Biggest crime isn't what the officials or Cooper did, it is with that kind of field position and the wind at their back, Iowa couldn't gain 15-20 yards to kick the winning field goal.
 
Hilarious article in the Athletic today about Ferentz. Don't want to violate paywall provisions, but here are some snippets.

As DeJean ran toward the end zone for what would have been the go-ahead touchdown with less than 90 seconds remaining in Iowa’s game against Minnesota on Saturday, it looked like Kirk Ferentz was going to get away with it again.

It looked as though we were all going to be subjected to that patented, condescending Ferentz smirk. You know, that grin that Iowa's coach likes to flash when his team wins another gross, sad excuse for a football game that, in a twisted way, only confirms in his mind that offense is a fruitless burden he shouldn’t have to consider.

Then, thankfully, that glorious penalty flag came.

All of this is happening during a blatant case of nepotism. While his son remains in over his head as an offensive coordinator and jokes keep pouring in, he’s lining his pockets as a government employee.
 
That was one of the biggest kick to the nuts I've ever had as a sports fan and I've had a lot. Probably because I was at the game, which made it worse and the fact that no one knew this rule existed before, which again is compounded by being at the game because you don't get the immediate explanation of what the heck happened.

What makes it hard is that it is maybe technically the correct call, but how many calls don't get made that could be technically the correct call over the course of a game? What Cooper did was not deliberate and no one in the stadium including the opposing fans, coaching staff and players thought for even one second that Cooper called anything close to a fair catch.

Cooper was trying to get Iowa players away from the football by waving below the shoulders with his left arm and pointing with his right arm when he was still a long ways away from the ball. Then when he gets to the area of the ball landing, he fields the punt and dodges immediate tackle attempts by Minnesota and then busted it for a TD. Then after a lengthy review they called the invalid signal reversal. It was really stuff to stomach then and still bad now as what Cooper did had no bearing on the outcome of that play IMO.

Again just a kick to the nuts. Stadium went from don't think we could win, to an amazing play, then a review where we all thought they were reviewing if he was in bounds and then stadium goes crazy again when they showed him clearly in bounds to the invalid signal call. Just a crazy swing of emotions in a short amount of time.
Welcome to my world..So sad for you
 
What if the officials hadn’t called this correctly and Minnesota got absolutely hosed on a missed call?

Would Iowa fans be happy about winning like that? Knowing that they hadn’t truly ‘won’ the game? Of course they would. Iowa doesn’t care if they win honestly…. just win.

The call was 100% correct. Every single official that has been asked says it was correct. But you still have Iowa fans and media/journalists acting like it was a horrible call and shouldn’t have been made. They cannot get themselves to admit they lost fair and square.
 

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