Well they get what they vote for. The state that needs some of the biggest handouts in the nation votes against them, maybe if they had more educated people that wouldn’t happen. Kinda becomes a self fulfilling prophecy at some point
WVU Appears to be in Trouble
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I 100% guarantee you would oppose any legislation to provide free meals in K-12
I'd like to know how they're qualified now for $4-500K.
Often times it seems these sorts of positions appear. And their job is to create committees, and those committees create acronyms. And those acronyms are used to help remember the process used to change things that were already working.
Scary to think about a model like West Virginia's coming to ISU.
I'd like more state funding to support our existing programs and provide for the arts, humanities, social sciences, etc. to exist at levels they did previously which could easily solve our budget woes and the risk of cutting programs that are important to the development of a full human being and a just society, like foreign language, humanities, etc. but in the absence of the political will to do this in Iowa and return to more state funding percentage-wise of higher ed, given the political right's constant cutting of support of public education in the State of Iowa from the K-12 to higher education, isn't it time some of these institutions start thinking about siphoning off some money from their endowments? Isn't this a suitable time to do this when facing cuts and dire straights for some departments? Same for a school like West Virginia.
I'm not well-versed in our endowment or how it works, but last I heard at an ISU Foundation fundraiser event we had something like $1.3 billion in ISU's endowment and the campaign is trying to get it to $2 billion if I recall correctly. If the money in here is not restricted (I recognize that is a big "IF" but I don't know the specifics), then shouldn't we start invading the principal a bit or at least use take some of the income each year to fund ISU generally and support these programs we're talking about cutting? Same with a school like West Virginia. If we're just taking income, wouldn't that be somewhere between $50 million and $100 million each year in funding toward programs that need it. Maybe that's overly simple, but I don't understand right now how all these schools are having problems, yet nobody (far as I can tell) is talking about invading these massive war chest endowments. Maybe they are and we just don't hear about it...
Anyway, would like to see more of these social science type programs that aren't making money stay around in healthy shape as they contribute to our society and our state in so many ways.
Or he is voting into office representatives who oppose this legislation. Either way, same effect.
I'd my pressure my state to first take care of children, then we can focus on other things.
The reason for this is two parts; first that you cannot develop to your full potential when hungry. Second is that our country is in more critical need for people in the trades and skilled labor than we are for another podcaster or accountant with 100K in student loans and no clear future. My neighbor is a financial planner, and he always tells me there are just as many rich people in the trades than there are people working in "white collar jobs".
Kids need to stop being pushed into college before they are even allowed to vote. Why not go learn a skill for a couple years if you are unsure what you want to do? I'd rather see more burned out 25 year olds going to college as freshman, knowing what they want to do than 18-22 year olds who don't know what they want to do, get a degree just to check the box and be saddled with 100K in student loans with no outlook on their future. Community college is severely underutilized in this country as well. Get your gen-eds out of the way for 1/3 or less the cost of 4-year school.
Tech, specifically AI is coming for more white collar jobs than it is plumbers, electricians, and HVAC techs.
Don't hear me wrong, university learning is very important. However, only for certain career fields and most of those careers make REALLY good incomes that can afford to pay back their loans. Those businesses are successful enough to pay their employees to get the education needed IMO.
CycloneErik
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It isn't the programs that are losing money in LAS. It's the college administration itself. The departments just get to pay the price for the Dean's failure (who has since retired).
I remember looking through the State of Iowa salary database for public employees and just shocked at how many ISU admit were making ridiculous amounts of money....and how many of them never interact with student
Interesting. I'm in Arizona. All of the community colleges in the state meet regularly with the three state Universities. We have a numbering system for equivalent courses. For example an Organic Chemistry course at our community college has a number assigned to it that indicates it will automatically transfer to any of the other colleges or universities as Organic Chemistry under that same number. I assumed other states had similar systems, but apparently not. Of course if a student transfers out of state, there's no guarantee. My son transferred from a community college here in Arizona to Davidson College in North Carolina and didn't have any trouble getting his courses to transfer.
That is just incorrect 100%. I donated around $500 last year to school feeding plans and food banks, specifally for this reason.
A bill to fund age 0-high school meals would get my vote 12/10 times.
STOP trying to push two party views into this. No funding for higher ed until our children are fed AND our preK-12 education is funded better
Iowa is #13 in education according to this, but #16 in prek-12 and #7 in higher ed. I would sign up for flipping that tomorrow if I could.
DMACC had/has a partnership with all three universities in Iowa.
What if I told you these cuts came with a package deal including making sure poor kids had to fend for themselves for basic food?
Then maybe you should get your R legislators in the state of Iowa to actually give a sxxt about public school education instead of throwing money at school vouchers.
There was bi-partisan support for expanded free/reduced school lunches in 2023, but guess who wouldn't let the bill come to the floor, the Republicans?
Opinion: A bipartisan pitch for free lunches in Iowa
The Iowa State Capitol building is seen after short snow storm the day after the caucuses in Des Moines on …
www.thegazette.com
Editorial: Killing rural Iowa - Storm Lake Times Pilot
We trust that our state legislators are paying close attention to the issues in area school and city elections coming up. No doubt, former Alta-Aurelia superintendent Sen. Lynn Evans, R-Aurelia, is keenly aware of the difficulties the school board faces in trying to arrange a class realignment...
www.stormlake.com
I feel bad for parents with young childern. I can only imagine what things will be like in another 10 years. Our last one will graduate from college next spring. Tired of the damn U-bills to (even with student loans and filing FAFSA every year.) It's only going to get worse.
I can see all these buildings being shut down if they start cutting things in terms of majors. I'm just glad I had a lot more options than people in the future might have.
I can see all these buildings being shut down if they start cutting things in terms of majors. I'm just glad I had a lot more options than people in the future might have.
I 100% support this, thanks for asking.Then maybe you should get your R legislators in the state of Iowa to actually give a sxxt about public school education instead of throwing money at school vouchers.
There was bi-partisan support for expanded free/reduced school lunches in 2023, but guess who wouldn't let the bill come to the floor, the Republicans?
Opinion: A bipartisan pitch for free lunches in Iowa
The Iowa State Capitol building is seen after short snow storm the day after the caucuses in Des Moines on …
Editorial: Killing rural Iowa - Storm Lake Times Pilot
We trust that our state legislators are paying close attention to the issues in area school and city elections coming up. No doubt, former Alta-Aurelia superintendent Sen. Lynn Evans, R-Aurelia, is keenly aware of the difficulties the school board faces in trying to arrange a class realignment...
Also, thank you for boxing me into one of two pre-determined mindsets as I am incapable of having my own thoughts, opinions, and beliefs.
edit: I forgot to mention that the state rep for my district is one of the co-sponsors to that. I owe them a call to voice support again for this.
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For those close enough to the Des moines Area, your kid can live at home (although it may not be much fun) and partner with DMACC/ISU and knock out two years of college for about $12K. I understand this may not fit for everyone.
Then transfer to ISU (potential for additional scholarships) but even if you paid full price of room and board (20k ish) you could get a really nice 4 year degree for about 52k without working, financial aid, the hundreds of scholarships available, etc. Now picture this scenario if you get some scholly's and find a 16 hour/wk job and full time in the summer. especially one that is in your field.
I just can't get over these people that are like, I have 200k debt and I am a marketing major and can't get a job or am only making 60k out of school. My point is even with how much things are out of control money wise (and I do realize that), we have to find ways to adopt. My above solution should work for a lot of people. and if a family is living below the poverty line then there are other ways to knock money off of school.
and it goes back to what I said earlier about the car loans.
People get pissed about having 50K in student loan debt, while they had a 4 year life experience and learned for their career, etc, but don't say a word about spending 52K on a Chevy Traverse that doesn't bring you much value and needs to be paid off in 5-7 years.
Which is why I think these private schools are in trouble. People are tired of graduating with 130k debt with a marketing degree from Luther that will probably be replaced by AI anyway.
