Has anyone purchased a new vehicle lately, the prices are off the wall.

The price tag for a new F150 or comparable Chevy will shock many people. It's very easy to add a few bells and whistles and move up from anything above an XLT version and you are mid 70's and up.
Ford is pricing themselves out of the market. A brand new XL bare bones work truck is $55k
 
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So my wife and I are going to be looking at buying a vehicle. For those of you who have purchased recently, are there any advantages or disadvantages to getting a plug in hybrid vehicle? We aren't ready yet to do a full electric.

Bought a Jeep Wrangler 4xe in May and love it. Goes 28 miles on battery which is perfect for around town driving.

No disadvantages except the gas mileage sucks (same for all Wranglers) and I wish the battery went about 20 miles more. I’ve done about 80% battery driving and 20% gas driving.
 
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Bought a Jeep Wrangler 4xe in May and love it. Goes 28 miles on battery which is perfect for around town driving.

No disadvantages except the gas mileage sucks (same for all Wranglers) and I wish the battery went about 20 miles more. I’ve done about 80% battery driving and 20% gas driving.

Part of the reason why we’re looking at plug in hybrids is that I’m going to have a 60 mile one way commute three days a week. So the battery would help for a little bit. Not sure if my new employer will have power stations. Outside of that, the battery will be sufficient for any errands we have around town.
 
Part of the reason why we’re looking at plug in hybrids is that I’m going to have a 60 mile one way commute three days a week. So the battery would help for a little bit. Not sure if my new employer will have power stations. Outside of that, the battery will be sufficient for any errands we have around town.

There are some 35-50 mi range PHEVs you could look at. Although if you are doing this strictly for gas savings and your work doesn’t have an onsite charger, you likely are only saving a gallon of gas per commute and the savings probably isn’t worth the extra spend. But if you have other motives like reducing emissions and cleaning up your carbon footprint, it’s a solid move.

Also check the tax credits as they can vary per vehicle.
 
I'm not an electric car person, but what don't you like about Tesla? They seem to be the nicer looking one.
Keep in mind that the majority of the people that hate Tesla or even EVs in general have never even driven one. The performance and charging network of Tesla is in another league. In the future, that will change.
 
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Keep in mind that the majority of the people that hate Tesla or even EVs in general have never even driven one. The performance and charging network of Tesla is in another league. In the future, that will change.
I’ve never driven one and am not an electric car fan but I just think Teslas are the nicer ones I’ve seen on the market. If I was to buy one I’d probably look there first.
 
Elon is the CEO, he’s more than just a stockholder.
So you the know the CEO of every company you purchase stuff from? He's weird, but weird seems to be the creative people and get things accomplished. I didn't care for Jack Welch's style but I didn't say I was boycotting GE.
 
Part of the reason why we’re looking at plug in hybrids is that I’m going to have a 60 mile one way commute three days a week. So the battery would help for a little bit. Not sure if my new employer will have power stations. Outside of that, the battery will be sufficient for any errands we have around town.
Plug-ins are awesome. Very, very few people wouldn't benefit from having one. We should've been making these things 10+ years ago.
 
Plug-ins are awesome. Very, very few people wouldn't benefit from having one. We should've been making these things 10+ years ago.
When we were parked at the hotel this weekend, I noticed an Audi Q5 was plugged in. I loved that it had zero badging that is was a hybrid and the only way I could tell was that it had a fuel door on one side and a charger door on the other. I think it's obnoxious when companies like Toyota use dumb colors and tons of badging for their hybrids.
BTW-I'm not pimping the Q5, I don't know if it's any good.
 
I don't want to cave this but I will second that. Our family will not support an open and blatant fascist. /political related talk

There's also the fact that industry estimates have Tesla's current fleet estimated to have more recalls than all other cars. Their failure to deliver on promised features/upgrades. Their clear QC issues. And there are just as capable and forward looking companies elsewhere.


Summary

  • Tesla is the most-recalled brand, with the Y, 3, X, and S occupying 4 of the top 5 slots
  • Mercedes-Benz leads the least-recalled list, followed closely by Toyota and Lexus
  • 33 Models are projected to experience 1 or fewer recalls over their lifespan
  • 25 Models are projected to experience at least 10 recalls over their lifespan
  • The Tesla Model Y is projected to have 62 recalls over its lifespan
The overall average for lifetime projected recalls across all makes and models is 4.0. The least-recalled cars average one projected recall or less; conversely, the most recalled car, Tesla’s Model Y, is projected to have more than 62 recalls.
 
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So you the know the CEO of every company you purchase stuff from? He's weird, but weird seems to be the creative people and get things accomplished. I didn't care for Jack Welch's style but I didn't say I was boycotting GE.

No, but he’s very front and center and draws attention to himself, so it’s easy to hear what he says without trying to hard.
 
I don't want to cave this but I will second that. Our family will not support an open and blatant fascist. /political related talk

There's also the fact that industry estimates have Tesla's current fleet estimated to have more recalls than all other cars. Their failure to deliver on promised features/upgrades. Their clear QC issues. And there are just as capable and forward looking companies elsewhere.


Summary

  • Tesla is the most-recalled brand, with the Y, 3, X, and S occupying 4 of the top 5 slots
  • Mercedes-Benz leads the least-recalled list, followed closely by Toyota and Lexus
  • 33 Models are projected to experience 1 or fewer recalls over their lifespan
  • 25 Models are projected to experience at least 10 recalls over their lifespan
  • The Tesla Model Y is projected to have 62 recalls over its lifespan
The overall average for lifetime projected recalls across all makes and models is 4.0. The least-recalled cars average one projected recall or less; conversely, the most recalled car, Tesla’s Model Y, is projected to have more than 62 recalls.
The recalls and maintenance are valid points. That definitely is good reason.
 
Plug-ins are awesome. Very, very few people wouldn't benefit from having one. We should've been making these things 10+ years ago.

Yeah, the real question for me is would a plug in be better considering my commute, or just a fuel efficient hybrid? The plug in would be great for around town commute
 

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