*** Official IOWA STATE vs #14 Oklahoma Game(Day) Thread ***

I mean ohio beat us and looked like they were just legitimately a better team
I agree. That’s a problem. There is more than one thing going wrong at the same time between NIL and player losses due to gambling.
 
We live in Iowa people. We're a running joke most places in the USA. Getting black kids to come to a place that's cold 6 months of the year, has no NIL money, far from their families, culture shock to the max, small towns, country music is the main act for music, just on and on. These have always been barriers here it's just worse now with NIL being completely unregulated.
 
5 game win streak incoming…
In all seriousness, our next 5 games are all winnable. Of TCU, Cincy, Baylor, Kansas and BYU, who has looked unbeatable? Those teams are a combined 15-10, with most of those games being non-con cupcakes so far. I think we will compete with all of them. I don't think we'll win them all, but I would not be surprised to get 2, 3 or 4 of them.
 
while true, Iowa State will never have the recruits OU does
I agree…and it makes me wonder why? KSU used to be the worst team in D1 football. Now they are a consistent contender and bowl team. Even KU is showing life. Neither of those locations are destinations for a player. Yet they are getting it done.
 
I agree…and it makes me wonder why? KSU used to be the worst team in D1 football. Now they are a consistent contender and bowl team. Even KU is showing life. Neither of those locations are destinations for a player. Yet they are getting it done.
They're pretty close to a major city and considerably warmer weather in general. Plus JUCO players there are quite good.
 
We refuse to or we aren’t able to? The transfer portal is on the fan base now just as much as the coaches. Money drives everything and our fans haven’t shelled out what’s needed to compete in the transfer portal.
I think future coaching hires will have the coaching candidates asking about NIL funds and fan donor support at the schools they interview with. They know it will be important to attract talent to their program.
 
It’s the Circle of Life of an ISU coaching tenure. It’s just what happens.

Everywhere that isn't a blue blood, honestly.

Coach hired, hopefully have some early success. Eventually a plateau hits (often as original staff leave for other opportunities or other teams get what they're doing figured out), coaches either adapt or they begin a downward slide, that slide goes on too long it turns into a death spiral. Rinse, repeat.
 
In all seriousness, our next 5 games are all winnable. Of TCU, Cincy, Baylor, Kansas and BYU, who has looked unbeatable? Those teams are a combined 15-10, with most of those games being non-con cupcakes so far. I think we will compete with all of them. I don't think we'll win them all, but I would not be surprised to get 2, 3 or 4 of them.
@Lineup feel free to laugh, but SP+ has Kansas, Cincy and BYU as being <1 point ahead of ISU. It's predicting a TCU by 7 points before any home/away adjustment (or the JTS at night and Trice uni's factor). Baylor is actually 1.5 points behind us. That's a whole lot of toss-ups.

Resume SP+ also has OU as the number 2 team in the country based on results to date (including yesterday), which I think should temper the frustration from yesterday a bit. How would people expect us to do against Georgia? Alabama? Ohio State or Michigan? Just because OU is familiar doesn't mean they are worse.

I expect to see competitive football over the coming weeks.
 
@Lineup feel free to laugh, but SP+ has Kansas, Cincy and BYU as being <1 point ahead of ISU. It's predicting a TCU by 7 points before any home/away adjustment (or the JTS at night and Trice uni's factor). Baylor is actually 1.5 points behind us. That's a whole lot of toss-ups.

I'd feel a lot better about this if our record in close games wasn't so trash the last couple years.
 
I think future coaching hires will have the coaching candidates asking about NIL funds and fan donor support at the schools they interview with. They know it will be important to attract talent to their program.
It won't be a part of the hiring conversation. Coaches talk and know where the money is. That's going to be a requirement just to have a conversation with in demand coaches. Us being lower 5% of the country in NIL and booster is a glaring black eye.
 
In all seriousness, our next 5 games are all winnable. Of TCU, Cincy, Baylor, Kansas and BYU, who has looked unbeatable? Those teams are a combined 15-10, with most of those games being non-con cupcakes so far. I think we will compete with all of them. I don't think we'll win them all, but I would not be surprised to get 2, 3 or 4 of them.
I agree, they are winnable. However, it seems to me that it's gong to take more than 20 points of offense to win most of them, which shouldn't be a big deal in modern football...except if you happen to have an offense-averse head coach.
 
I agree…and it makes me wonder why? KSU used to be the worst team in D1 football. Now they are a consistent contender and bowl team. Even KU is showing life. Neither of those locations are destinations for a player. Yet they are getting it done.
The location of both schools make it easier to recruit the state of Texas, which has either the most or second most D1 football players produced each year. Oklahoma also has a decent amount of football players that each school can recruit.

Now look at ISU, all the schools to our east play in the Big 10, which those kids grow up dreaming about playing in, not the B12. ISU really does not have a natural recruiting area. Looking over our roster, we are getting lot of kids from Florida, and then the rest outside of Iowa are all over the place. It's a hard school to recruit too, we have no money to give out, and the instate kids are going to EIU rather than here.
 

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