National Coordinator of Officials Steve Shaw says FG in Ohio game was "no good"

[OhioCatFan]

I just thought to bring closer on the matter, you folks would be interested to know that Steve Shaw, the national coordinator of officials, has reviewed the "controversial" FG attempt against OHIO and concluded that the officials were correct. It was no good.

You can see his analysis here (starting at the 4:42 mark):
National Coordinator of Officials Steve Shaw

I'll be rooting for you guys for the rest of the season. Nice seeing you take down Okie State on Saturday.

 

[simply1]

Best of luck

 

[Die4Cy]

I just thought to bring closer on the matter, you folks would be interested to know that Steve Shaw, the national coordinator of officials, has reviewed the "controversial" FG attempt against OHIO and concluded that the officials were correct. It was no good.

You can see his analysis here (starting at the 4:42 mark):
National Coordinator of Officials Steve Shaw

I'll be rooting for you guys for the rest of the season. Nice seeing you take down Okie State on Saturday.

He actually does not say that.

He says it is only reviewable if it is below the top of the uprights.
He says there are many angles that would make a review deceiving.
He says the best position for viewing is directly underneath.

He is actually saying he can't accept anything other than the call on the field as a result. So it was no good.

 

[OhioCatFan]

Yes, he does. Watch to the whole clip. He says that quite clearly at the end. He further says that it is a very easy call for the official under the goal post to make.

The direct quote is: "This Field Goal is no good." I don't think it could be clearer than that. He also explains in some detail why it is no good. I personally learned a little bit more about rules on FG's watching this clip.

 

[theshadow]

Why are we still talking about this?

 

[Die4Cy]

The official under and behind the post is in the best position to see if it is good.
I am not the official under and behind the post.
Therefore the official who is under and behind the post made the correct call.

That was the logic behind this so called "review". I stipulate that this does not in any way constitute an actual review of the call, but instead is the coordinator supporting his employee in a situation where no camera angle can show where the ball was in relation to the post.

It's fine, you make some and you miss some. Iowa State did not deserve to win that game last week, the Bobcats won it. Have a great year from here on out.

 

[OhioCatFan]

Look at the video from behind the official, which he actually pauses at one point. That's a much better angle than the one from the front that caused all the controversy. It is fairly close to the angle that the official would have. It would appear from this angle that the ball is, indeed, right above the upright extended, which by rule, means it's no good. These were, by the way, B12 officials, not MAC officials. This was no "four yard line safety" which we had called against us a few years ago! ;-)

 

[isucy86]

He actually does not say that.

He says it is only reviewable if it is below the top of the uprights.
He says there are many angles that would make a review deceiving.
He says the best position for viewing is directly underneath.

He is actually saying he can't accept anything other than the call on the field as a result. So it was no good.

He also said since the ball is above the goal post, all the ball must be inside the goal post.

Barring a camera shot directly up the the goal post, I gotta believe the ref got it right.

 

[BCClone]

Why are we still talking about this?

Agreed, why are we wanting to talk about possibly the worst game we’ve played in a decade more?

 

[theshadow]

Look at the video from behind the official, which he actually pauses at one point. That's a much better angle than the one from the front that caused all the controversy. It is fairly close to the angle that the official would have. It would appear from this angle that the ball is, indeed, right above the upright extended, which by rule, means it's no good. These were, by the way, B12 officials, not MAC officials. This was no "four yard line safety" which we had called against us a few years ago! ;-)

 

[OhioCatFan]

At any rate, good luck the rest of the season. I like the guts your team displayed and their hard-nosed clean football. It was nothing like the BG team we played on Saturday that gave us a lot of cheap shots. They had two players ejected for unsportsmanlike penalties. One of them racked up two in one play. You guys played good, honest football with good sportsmanship. I very much respect that!

 

[Die4Cy]

Look at the video from behind the official, which he actually pauses at one point. That's a much better angle than the one from the front that caused all the controversy. It is fairly close to the angle that the official would have. It would appear from this angle that the ball is, indeed, right above the upright extended, which by rule, means it's no good. These were, by the way, B12 officials, not MAC officials. This was no "four yard line safety" which we had called against us a few years ago! ;-)

I am not interested in making this the Zapruder film scene from JFK. It doesn't matter. Just saying that Steve Shaw really only justification that the kick was missed in your linked video was that the official said so.

I mean, no ****, Sherlock.

 

[BCClone]

At any rate, good luck the rest of the season. I like the guts your team displayed and their hard-nosed clean football. It was nothing like the BG team we played on Saturday that gave us a lot of cheap shots. They had two players ejected for unsportsmanlike penalties. One of them racked up two in one play. You guys played good, honest football with good sportsmanship. I very much respect that!

Good is not a word for how we played that day.

 

[Cyforce]

Yes, he does. Watch to the whole clip. He says that quite clearly at the end. He further says that it is a very easy call for the official under the goal post to make.

The direct quote is: "This Field Goal is no good." I don't think it could be clearer than that. He also explains in some detail why it is no good. I personally learned a little bit more about rules on FG's watching this clip.

If he said "is no good" he's confirming only what the official caledl because it's not reviewable. If he believed it was no good he would of phrased it as , ' was no good".

 

[fcclone]

Look at the video from behind the official, which he actually pauses at one point. That's a much better angle than the one from the front that caused all the controversy. It is fairly close to the angle that the official would have. It would appear from this angle that the ball is, indeed, right above the upright extended, which by rule, means it's no good. These were, by the way, B12 officials, not MAC officials. This was no "four yard line safety" which we had called against us a few years ago! ;-)

You joined today to tell us this?

 

[OhioCatFan]

Good is not a word for how we played that day.

You forget that you were up against one of the best defenses in college football!

 

[CYCLNST8]

At any rate, good luck the rest of the season. I like the guts your team displayed and their hard-nosed clean football. It was nothing like the BG team we played on Saturday that gave us a lot of cheap shots. They had two players ejected for unsportsmanlike penalties. One of them racked up two in one play. You guys played good, honest football with good sportsmanship. I very much respect that!

Yeah, we’ve mastered being gracious in defeat. We’re so good at. It’s getting rather old though. I’d rather fight dirty and win games.

 

[BCClone]

You forget that you were up against one of the best defenses in college football!

It’s not legal in Iowa yet, btw.

 

[OhioCatFan]

You joined today to tell us this?

Just wanted to set the record straight because this "controversy" has taken on a life of it's own. A station in Cleveland (better known in Ohio as the "Mistake on the Lake") broadcast the video of the FG from the angle in front that makes it look good. And, then without question, says "Ohio got a break on a bad call."

 

[quasistellar]

jesus christ this thread needs locked.