KidSilverhair
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Naw, make him learn to fly so he can levitate right over the QB next time. Apparently that’s the only possible way to avoid a penalty here.
Personal foul roughing the passer?
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While you're at it explain to me what pass interference means in the rules book. Roughing the passer used to be pretty obvious but now that they want to protect the QB, it has become impossible for a large human at full speed to make a milisecond decision at the absolute last blink. Holding can be called every play along with pass interference. They all are predicated on how they affect the point of attack on a given play and the game experience of the official.
Entire first half of Baylor game last year was called that way but only for ISU. Basically banned tackling for one half for one team.
Right. I wonder if subconsciously the flag against Ellis was a makeup call. Glad it didn't make a difference in this game.
Saw the same thing..That game imo was rigged. About as blatant as the flag picking up party in Manhattan. Anyone saying officials can't or don't impact the outcome of a game are full of it.
Bad call and no holding penalties on UNI all day. Crew was pretty bad but what I expected for this game!
And rode up and made helmet to helmet contact. At least that's how it looked when watching the replay.
The stupidest rules in sports are around roughing the passer and targeting rules in college football. There are cases where players must defy the laws of physics to avoid not a bad call, but a call by the letter of the law. I was glad to see in the Rutgers NW game the flag get picked up that I feel like has been called targeting in past years.
The ref already had his flag out of his pocket by the time the helmet came off.
maybe. but doesn't contact to the head (at least in terms of targeting) have to do with the point of contact and not how that contact evolves as the 2 go to the ground?
IMO he got under his facemask a little. i am not sure under the facemask is contact to the head. it seems like contact below the head.
The rules were put in place to protect the players, I get that, but it's now tilted too far in the name of safety that its effecting the game. We have gone from helmet to helmet, now to any blow above the shoulders to the head and neck is a penalty and possible ejection from the game.
We need to go back to it has to be obvious to everyone in the stadium to be thrown out of the game. Direct full force helmet to helmet or hitting a defenseless receiver stretching out to catch the ball or when the ball is by them. Take out the dirty play, otherwise it's a 5 yard add on penalty and keep the game going.
In the Rutgers/NW game was a perfect example, the QB was running, and at the last second, started to slide, the Rutgers player tried to avoid hitting him by diving over but his shoulder did have contact with the QB's head on the side. Flag was thrown, they are debating what it should be called in the booth, and they decided the player should not be ejected for the play.
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I saw this too and although they aren't allowed to take the actions of the player who was hit into account it appeared they did and made the correct call in the spirit of the rules. I was glad they didn't throw a kid out for that.
Because kids can control gravity?
I don’t think even Baryshnikov had that kind of body control.
Gravity...
...it's not just a good idea, it's the law!
This was the 2nd roughing the passer call.... ball still in QB's hand.....
And how he landed... on top... yes... but with arms and hands out. Not hardly pile driving him to the ground....
And how he landed... on top... yes... but with arms and hands out. Not hardly pile driving him to the ground....
KidSilverhair
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That is a picture-perfect hit on a QB.
So of course it’s a 15-yard roughing penalty.
Someone mentioned because he had his helmet in his chest... but that's lame IMO. He didn't lower his head, and it's not up under his facemask/neck area either. It's more like his facemask hit his chest.
KidSilverhair
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And isn’t that what they keep preaching? “Head Up Football”? See what you hit? This is literally exactly the tackle technique coaches want to teach their players, to avoid lowering the head and leading with the crown … and they still throw a flag.