I always wanted 6 with the top two seeds getting a bye so every game still matters and teams can't sandbag it at the end if they are ranked #1 or #2 and are going to get in anyway to a top-6. Couple that with home field advantage like the NFL does and that's an intriguing final couple of weeks of the season and makes the conference championship games across the board worth something.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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For every team except the top 5 or 6, getting into the playoff will become just like getting into the basketball tournament. They will put up banner saying they were a playoff team in 20XX. Coaches will be rewarded and extended for making the playoff, not for winning the championship, because for all but a few schools, that is not going to happen.
Truely the only way to even the field is bring in a system that cuts the number of scholarships to the Georgia's and Alabama schools. So they win the championship, they only get 20 scholarships per year for the next couple of seasons, runner up gets 22 scholarships. Keep it going until they bottom out at 15 and then you will see change at the top.
None of that is going to happen, ESPN and FOX care a lot more about Ohio State winning and their TV ratings than being able for ISU or KSU to get into the playoff and advance. Just the world we live in.
Truely the only way to even the field is bring in a system that cuts the number of scholarships to the Georgia's and Alabama schools. So they win the championship, they only get 20 scholarships per year for the next couple of seasons, runner up gets 22 scholarships. Keep it going until they bottom out at 15 and then you will see change at the top.
None of that is going to happen, ESPN and FOX care a lot more about Ohio State winning and their TV ratings than being able for ISU or KSU to get into the playoff and advance. Just the world we live in.
I have such a love hate with KState. Kind of like a brother thing where it’s okay for us to talk **** to each other but as soon as someone else talks **** to them it’s on.
I hate playing them in any sport. They have had so many fortunate bounces when we play them. I do think our futures are aligned in the grand scheme of realignment, and I’d welcome them as our main rival if Iowa ducks out of the CyHawk in the future.
CycloneErik
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Whatever. He's saying the same things everyone knows about conference futures. This round didn't end it all.
It’s baseless to think those changes are going to put BYU and Utah on some different strata though, that’s why it sounds like yet another a-hole quote from someone with Utah. BYU is one or two great seasons from having the bigger fanbase in their state (it currently seems like a coin flip) and already has the bigger fanbase overall.
What change evaluates the two and elevates just one other than a Big Ten invite? I don’t see a lot of changes going forward where Utah/BYU aren’t in the same boat but Utah fans see themselves as superior to the entire rest of the big 12 in every way. It’s most likely he has the same opinion as his fans.
No different than the NY6 bowl games today. Just now there’s another game for the winners.
CycloneErik
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You have to be three years removed to enter into the draft. Most college players at the great programs aren't transferring out if they are playing, and most don't redshirt, so they usually have them for three years.
Put it this way. In terms of average ranking per player on 247, the gap between Alabama/Georgia to Michigan is similar to the gap between Michigan and Arkansas State.
The recruiting ranking disparity is a pretty steep curve, and it gets accumulated year after year.
The cool thing about football is a lot can happen in a single game. But I think people drastically underestimate how big that talent gap between Alabama and Georgia vs. everyone else (MAYBE save for Ohio State) has become.
One big problem has been less than stellar coaching for teams that can haul in top talent - Texas A&M, Texas, LSU, USC before Riley, and I'll say OU with Venables.
Yeah, I don’t know if he really intended it that way but I agree it’s easy to read into it that maybe he somehow thinks Utah will be a part of some premier breakaway league and BYU won’t. Personally I’ve always liked Whittingham and I think it’s probably more just that he’s an older coach that’s a little exhausted from the recent changes and knows the only certainty is we will see more big changes sooner rather than later.
I’m too lazy to dig up the quotes but the first one I thought of was the Mike Gundy comments about how before long the top 30 or so teams are going to leave and do their own thing. Maybe the catalyst will be the other conferences insisting on smaller conferences getting auto-bids and not letting the big teams keep most of the CFP money.
I agree with him the word “permanent” is very cringe right now, but you have to ignore mountains of comments from Utah athletic dept and fans to not read this as a dig against byu and entire b12. I opened a Facebook link to this article and the very first comment is a Utah fan claiming the Big 12’s next move is to vote out byu and Houston. Nonsensical, but that is truly their arrogance and culture.
Agree, at this point 8 was the right number for the CFP. Power Conference Champs and a few highly ranked wild cards. We already see a lot of blowouts with 4 teams.
My struggle with 12 is the Playoff will include around 7 teams that just played their CCG. Why even play CCG? Seems like it will be common to see rematches in the playoffs a few weeks later.
Also will playing in the CCG become a disadvantage if a team ranked 8-12 going into their CCG, loses and falls out of the Top 12? Or benefit teams ranked 10-15 because they sit at home CCG weekend?
It seems like winning your CCG should help your chances of making the playoffs (or seeding), but losing should only impact seeding.
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With NIL, I'm not sure scholarship limits will matter all that much anymore. Some Columbus auto dealer will gladly pay tuition for really good walk-ons to Ohio State.
This idea is so stupid and it keeps getting repeated on this board, no one is paying tuition for a walk on. They might get a cut that all the other players are getting from NIL at some schools but no one is paying specifically for a walk on unless they have some awesome media PR story.
I think you may have misconstrued the poster. They should have probably put "walk-on" in "". Need another awesome player but you are at your limit? Have someone "adopt" a football player and pay their way and just get found on the intramural fields and "walk-on". I too believe this could easily happen. ESPECIALLY with B-ball where one DUDE can make a big difference.
You are mostly correct at this time. However, I can see a time when (if scholarships are reduced based upon success) boosters would step up to fill the gap to ensure continued success.
Built Brand LLC (whoever that is) has already agreed to pay tuition for walk-ons at BYU.
In what world would scholarships ever be reduced based on success? I mean sure in an alternate universe where that is a thing you have a point but that’s not the world we live in.
Yeah that’s not happening, those awesome players have egos and don’t want to not be on scholarship. What awesome player would ever be fine having an agreement like that?
First of all, I would think it would be illegal even with NIL to pay for someone to walk on at any team. But I gather he is talking about a 3- or 4-star player that wants to go to Ohio State say, and they are out of scholarships, so his could be paid by someone else and he stills plays for the team.
It's not going to happen, but it would be nice to see the teams at the top lose scholarships the more than win to even out the field a little.
That's already been proven wrong. Texas Tech had NIL for 100 athletes lined up on day 1 (85 scholarship + 15 walk on). This isn't much different than what Nebraska did with their partial qualifier thing. They're trying to keep the Texas kids in Texas. Why would boosters NOT want to do this? NIL is NOT about companies benefiting with their association with a star athlete (if you think that you've really not been paying attention). It's about paying players because rich people like their football teams.