If people want someone to blame, blame the legislature for legalizing it. It was entirely predictable there would be problems such as this.
ISU Gambling Megathread
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Or we could just blame the people that bet. Because they're adults.
Yeah it doesn't matter whether it's legal or illegal, online or in casinos, or if it's a local bookie.
This is likely happening all across the country at every school, but most schools won't get investigated. Just ISU/UI.
This is likely happening all across the country at every school, but most schools won't get investigated. Just ISU/UI.
Cut out the cancer and move on. Only way to do it
It wouldn't surprise me if some other states end up having their own investigations. But I think we may end up being the warning case. Because I think a lot of people may not have realized just how sophisticated the sports books are at detecting violations like this. I think most of the players involved probably just assumed it was like sharing a streaming account where there would be no issues if they used a parent's login. This may be a wake up call to many that this isn't the case.
Though given the data tracking involved, if I was a player that had made any bets in the last couple years in another state I might be pretty worried right about now. Because if their state starts digging, they're going to find that old data, even if they dont gamble going forward after this warning.
So without going through all the twitter posts, news and this thread.
does anyone know if this is the final damage?
just trying to gage my expectations for this year.
had the high bar set at 6-7 wins and bottom feeder bowl game.
the low bar for me was winning 3-4 wins but see potential moving forward. (which is sad I know)
ISU is not in position to be losing starters before the season even starts. Maybe some of these Big12 teams won't be very good this year and we catch some of them.
does anyone know if this is the final damage?
just trying to gage my expectations for this year.
had the high bar set at 6-7 wins and bottom feeder bowl game.
the low bar for me was winning 3-4 wins but see potential moving forward. (which is sad I know)
ISU is not in position to be losing starters before the season even starts. Maybe some of these Big12 teams won't be very good this year and we catch some of them.
I think it's a good thing that the DCI did the investigation. If gambling is going to be legal, it should be restricted to adults and kept as free from corruption as possible.
Has anyone (reporter, journalist, hack blogger/podcast host) asked the DCI any questions about this whole thing? The focus seems to be entirely on the universities and the student athletes. It seems fair to me that the DCI would have some sort of media availability about this case considering the time and effort they've put into investigating and prosecuting these alleged crimes.
I'd like to know how many non-student athletes they are prosecuting. Considering the quantity of athletes in the state they are pursuing, it stands to reason there are a considerable quantity of non-athletes that they would have also encountered doing the same things.
I'm not saying that being a student athlete is the same as being in a protected class under the law, but if the DCI is only going to charge athletes for their alleged underage and falsification of documents crimes, it seems to me that they are being too selective on who they enforce the law against.
Note:
I'll admit to not paying super close attention to this whole thing since it has dragged on and on all summer long. I've listened to all the CF and Iowa Everywhere podcasts so I imagine I'm about as updated as anyone as far as public information goes. Perhaps this has already been brought up and it completely missed me. My apologies if so.
I'd like to know how many non-student athletes they are prosecuting. Considering the quantity of athletes in the state they are pursuing, it stands to reason there are a considerable quantity of non-athletes that they would have also encountered doing the same things.
I'm not saying that being a student athlete is the same as being in a protected class under the law, but if the DCI is only going to charge athletes for their alleged underage and falsification of documents crimes, it seems to me that they are being too selective on who they enforce the law against.
Note:
I'll admit to not paying super close attention to this whole thing since it has dragged on and on all summer long. I've listened to all the CF and Iowa Everywhere podcasts so I imagine I'm about as updated as anyone as far as public information goes. Perhaps this has already been brought up and it completely missed me. My apologies if so.
That’s good- I don’t live up there so I don’t follow the local Ames/DM media too closely and I don’t know how this is being treated by the admin.
Glad they’re handling it like they should.
Serious answer to your unserious questions. No. And that’s absolute stupid to even ask.
Not sure about the majority of your post, but there should be a category for Numbed Acceptance. I'm numb by the whole thing, accept it, and am ready for some football.
Hopefully the team has the players and team motivation to have a really good year, and against most peoples expectations. It's time for some FB!!
I agree- but that’s not always how large bureaucracies work. Usually protecting the entity and those in power supersedes what is right and wrong. I was just curious what the thinking of the leadership was so far.
Not to mention they were obviously the least intelligent and team-oriented. The culling of those players likely improves the team chemistry and performance.
It is. When you have players betting on games they played in…that’s pretty scandalous.
It sucks, but I’m not going to sugar coat it.
@Bigman38 said it best- CMC has some work to do repairing our culture, but I stand behind him CMC and everything he’s done for our program 100%.
Nothing should happen to CMC, but that’s not always how bureaucracies work. They’re usually ran by scared people that are more concerned about keeping their jobs than doing what’s right.