Sure it is. I still get it. It's also pretty immature for a conference to turn down a school because its fans on Twitter are annoying. Good thing Yormark knows better.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Sure it is. I still get it. It's also pretty immature for a conference to turn down a school because its fans on Twitter are annoying. Good thing Yormark knows better.
For Fox/ESPN, maybe. For ASU & UU, the math doesn't hold up. They'd be crazy not to come.
Argh!
Well, at least we've got 6-7 years to go before the next squeeze. And I think BY will make things very interesting in that time. Not that I think he will be around that long. I hope he is, but I have a feeling BY may move on to the next chapter in his life, another step up perhaps?
Ventured over to Tony Altimore's twitter to see if he is crying and irate. Lo and behold, he is talking up the Big 12. Hmm, what could have changed his tune? I almost couldn't figure out what he was talking about without his nice pretty charts. He is advocating the Big 12 bringing all the Pac the Big 10 doesn't take.
Feel bad for OSU and WSU. They are getting screwed over with this realignment stuff, like others before and nearly us.
Feel bad for OSU and WSU. They are getting screwed over with this realignment stuff, like others before and nearly us.
BY was with the Nets for 15 years. IMO he will stay through the next media contract negotiation. I also think he wants to push Big 12 basketball and market it internationally. This really pushes the league’s potential. BY’s status would be legendary. And then he moves on to his next desired move.
You'd understand hoping ISU would join the MAC over the Big Ten because Iowa is icky? I don't understand that mindset at all. I guess I understand it in the way I understand psychosis exists as a thing.
I wasn't suggesting to not invite them because of it, but no I really don't understand that at all. I didn't see any ISU fans acting that way the multiple times we faced conference doomsday in regards to Iowa/Big Ten and dreaming that we stay in crumbling Big 12 or lying to ourselves the MAC and MWC or CUSA were better situations. It was the opposite that we would have all gone nuts to join Iowa's stable situation.
The extended analogy didn’t land because that’s not what I said, and not really close to it honestly. Utah was above BYU in the Pac when BYU was independent. Utah doesn’t want to be at the same level as them, in the same conference. So they’re denigrating the Big 12. If we were in a similar position, where we’d fallen into being in a superior conference to Iowa for a decade, we also would not want to feel like we were dropping back to their level by joining their league.
Utah is a good brand and school in a growing state; I’m excited for some reasons to visit SLC and catch a Cyclones game there every now and then.
Or, as stated above, could there be some antitrust movement on the media's side by creating false value during the P12 contract negotiations? Interesting to say the least.
I know I'm a broken record, but again a post that ignores 'intent' by the media to undervalue the P12 to force moves. The only argument I see for the media doing this, is that they DO value the P12 teams, but they more value the non-west coast fans and hope to exploit better overall viewership using non-west coast influence. I'm open to other reasons for the media companies to now pay more for those P12 teams.
Is it legal for B1G media partners to now negotiate buying power directly to ESPN for existing ACC contract? In essence, buying out enough of the contract that both the ACC GOR and media partners agree to disband for new open negotiations. It'd give ESPN a little more $$$ to negotiate what they want (ie SEC) and allows ACC teams to open the door to their preferred destinations. Just curious.
Again, don't ignore a separate basketball contract. Example: If the P2 has half the football content and the rest is split up by everyone else, we see what we're seeing. BUT, now imagine the P1 basketball conference having half the basketball content (just for arguments sake), the combined value of that conference with their more miniscule football value jumps significantly. I'm sure someone can put real numbers to this hypothetical, but I'm pretty sure that's BY's strategy to even the overall contract values of the P3.
I'll never forget the phrase: "5% of the people do 95% of the whining". So, take that for what it's worth. I certainly wouldn't feel good about judging an entire fanbase by what's on their boards. That said, of the few boards I've been on this one, by comparison seems to be more pragmatic. But even we have our embarrassing outliers.
Lofl. Suddenly his PAC royalty is on the same level as "other great schools" like SDSU and Memphis. What a fn tool.
From here on out he is 100% B1G is the best by 100 country miles and all others are community colleges. Bank it.
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This is almost a back-door suggestion to screw the B12. Where’s the TV money coming from for SMU? Boise State? Memphis? I’m surprised he didn’t include “great brands” like Tulane and South Dakota State on his B12 map.
Ya. I’m not sure why it’s the big 12s responsibility to shelter everyone left behind by the big 10s pillaging.
I think it was Yahoo or maybe the Athletic that had a detailed timeline of the Pac12 moves and it mentioned they asked their media partners for $50 mil per school ($500 mil) in early negotiations. They royally ****** up at every single step over the past 5 years.
I’m kinda surprised I hadn’t seen that clip yet on Twitter regarding this.