Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[RezClone]

Ranking the most dysfunctional meetings in America with the least agreement and/or meaningful consensus:

1) Pac-12 Media Deal Discussions
2) The Cave
3) Big 12 Replay Reviews
4) Congress
5) Divorce

(edit: sorry about reminding you of #3)

Just playing Devil's Advocate for a sec:

Any school that REALLY wants to avoid ending up in the Big 12 just needs to ask Brett Yormark what our officiating situation looks like in the Big 12, and the deal falls apart in approximately 3-5 minutes.

Nobody here would blame them.

 

[HFCS]

Arizona 247 board posters seem to be melting down after hearing this.
They think Robbins (their president) is going to mess this up and stay in the PAC9.

They’ve been all in for a while and even more now. Only question is if that’s it or more.

 

[legi]

Robbins is a Stanford guy. I thought I heard that some people think he’s on his way to Stanford as the next president. Current president Tessier-Lavigne is resigning effective Aug 31 due to the data manipulation situation.

Potential conflict of interest if he’s dragging his feet on this for UA knowing he might be boarding a burning ship soon in Palo Alto.

This is a major conflict of interest. Not sure how this is not a bigger deal.

Wish someone would tweet at Scheer about this.

 

[ISpyCy]

I’m not as convinced that AZ is a done deal as others (especially after Thamel’s report yesterday that AZ, UU, and ASU are tied together).

But everyone who says “oh it’s not happening now” what exactly did you expect coming out of that meeting? AZ never was going to walk out of that meeting and say “we’re leaving the conference!” immediately.

Ummm.........well............kind of, yeah.

 

[ISpyCy]

...AND THEN THERE'S THIS ******* GUY!!!

 

[werdnamanhill]

This is a major conflict of interest. Not sure how this is not a bigger deal.

Wish someone would tweet at Scheer about this.

Pretty sure he knows this already lol

 

[Cyched]

 

[legi]

Pretty sure he knows this already lol

I meant I haven't seen him mention this or make a big deal of it.

 

[Stormin]

Where are Oregon and Washington going to go? They, obviously, don't have a Big Ten invite and outside of some internet speculation haven't been real connected to the Big 12.

They can't snap their fingers and demand everybody come to their terms when they don't have any leverage.

Big 12. Arizona takes spot #14. ESPN pays for 15 and 16. Fox will give approval for Oregon and Washington to be paid as the 15 and 16. ASU and Utah anchor the new PAC 12 and their revised $12 million per team streaming deal.

 

[Cyched]

 

[wenkeej]

Pretty sure he knows this already lol

If Scheer doesn't he's not reading his own message board.

 

[Kinch]

“Excited and aligned.” Sounds like a quote FDR made on December 6, 1941.

 

[ISpyCy]

 

[clonedude]

So why hasn’t Arizona already announced they’re leaving for the Big 12? That deal is a joke.

 

[ISUTex]

It was a matter of footprint, not fans of the conference.

In states outside the Big Ten, they were getting pennies per subscriber. Inside the footprint, it jumped up to near a dollar and was on the basic tier -- no avoiding it by placing it in a separate Sports Pack.

So, once Rutgers was added to the footprint, the Big Ten got an extra 65-80 cents per cable subscriber per month. In NY/NJ, that's a huge number.

Ok so how did they not already have the Big 10 network in NYC? I freaking had it in Dallas almost 20 years ago. Why do they pay 70 cents more if it's in the footprint? I'm not disagreeing, just curious to how that worked.

 

[Cyclone Pfan]

Which is exactly what we want in the league. We need as many hated rivals as possible.

While I would rather have Arizona, I dont see a difference in media value from UConn. The only games Arizona would get viewers where they had anything to do with it is vs ASU. Otherwise it was USC and Oregon.

And Utah fans are going to figure this out. Utah football is good and they have a passionate fanbase that fits in the big 12.

The whole “doubling up” markets has zero relevance in the Big 12. I’d rather have all four corners and get two great rivalries.

Not directed at anyone in particular, but I don't understand the need to get both sides of rivalries into the same conference. Why not push another conference to have it use up one of their slots to broadcast every other year?

Nearly every B12 team has (or could have) a high profile non con rivalry (KSU and Houston may be the outliers).

List of NCAA college football rivalry games - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Big 12. Arizona takes spot #14. ESPN pays for 15 and 16. Fox will give approval for Oregon and Washington to be paid as the 15 and 16. ASU and Utah anchor the new PAC 12 and their revised $12 million per team streaming deal.

Sure that's the internet assumption but we haven't seen any credible reporting on that at all from anybody.

 

[Gunnerclone]

His writing style is so smug. After being so wrong so often. The ******** tell is “CEO Group”.

 

[legi]

If Scheer doesn't he's not reading his own message board.

But why not mention it himself and put more of a public pressure on Robbins? Unless he knows Arizona is already B12 bound

 

[Jeremy]

People often overthink things. The first rule of PR is to control the narrative and that would have been the most critical thing to do if the PAC had anything resembling a consensus. To not even leak something vague AF like “most parties agreed in principle to a path towards a framework” means there is a LOT of work still to be done, if even possible.

While of course most of the PAC would like to stay together – Regents and Presidents are risk averse – they also have bottom lines. They know what they need to stay and they simply weren’t presented with enough this AM to at least approve of a press release. That means the PAC has no narrative, thus what you’re seeing play out.

There doesn’t have to be a deal ready to sign or all schools having approved through their Presidents and Regents to try and control the narrative if there was one.