Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

I can see having UCLA/USC as that extreme of an outlier doubled edged sword.
I am sure UCLA would appreciate having a couple West Coast schools to help break up the travel especially for the Olympic sports and adding in say Oregon/Washington would help them.
The other edge is you're asking the current B10 members to not only travel to LA (potential double headers) a select few times every few years but now to Wash and then Oregon multiple more times and perhaps yearly. That affects the current members a lot and they will be the ones vote on adding WC schools adding to their decision. I could totally see Penn state saying they only want expansion from ACC eastern schools.
1135 miles L.A. to Seattle. NOT breaking up the travel.
 
I can see having UCLA/USC as that extreme of an outlier doubled edged sword.
I am sure UCLA would appreciate having a couple West Coast schools to help break up the travel especially for the Olympic sports and adding in say Oregon/Washington would help them.
The other edge is you're asking the current B10 members to not only travel to LA (potential double headers) a select few times every few years but now to Wash and then Oregon multiple more times and perhaps yearly. That affects the current members a lot and they will be the ones vote on adding WC schools adding to their decision. I could totally see Penn state saying they only want expansion from ACC eastern schools.

Trying to figure out how Washington at over 1,300 miles away from LA makes a good travel partner with UCLA and USC.
 
The SEC is going to heavily push for more members when the ACC contract comes due. The only reason they are getting $70 million is because ESPN is making a ton from its cash cow in the ACC. And with Disney signaling that they are tired of these mega sports deals, someone is going to have to pay the piper.
 
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1135 miles L.A. to Seattle. NOT breaking up the travel.
Trying to figure out how Washington at over 1,300 miles away from LA makes a good travel partner with UCLA and USC.
Totally agree. I have seen a reason the B1g 10 would want to add west coast teams would be as travel partner but the math doesn't add up. Especially for the Penn St and Rutgers of the current B1G signing up for multiple more trips to the west coast.
 
Pardon my ignorance on this topic but do the schools go by bus or do they fly? If they fly I really don't see distance as that big of a deal since its only probably like an 1.5 hours longer on a plane.
Longer trip means higher cost. And not just for the football team. You have to factor in all teams that are participating in the B1G. Track, tennis, golf, gymnastics, swimming, etc. Those add up over time.
 
I don't know about Utah. Take away their recent football success (which is significant) and what is left?

ASU has twice the enrollment and twice the state population and a bigger market in PHX (still matters a little bit). Sleeping giant compared to Utah.

If you simply switched football coaches at ASU and Utah, would you do a 180 on which was a better add to Big12?

I think you could argue UConn is a better add for the Big12. You might not win the argument, but it's debatable anyway.

In any event, I don't think Big12 adds ASU and Utah as 15 & 16. I think if Oregon doesn't jump, it stops at Arizona and 14.
Cities with pro football and basketball really trim the room for growth in my opinion.
 
Totally agree. I have seen a reason the B1g 10 would want to add west coast teams would be as travel partner but the math doesn't add up. Especially for the Penn St and Rutgers of the current B1G signing up for multiple more trips to the west coast.
I do think the time zone plays a factor as well, not just distance. People in the pro leagues, especially in the NFL and MLB say that going West coast to East coast and playing a day game is harder to adjust to.
 
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It was that those two would clearly be better adds for the Big 10. They will likely add them eventually in my opinion…but they for certain would have already if they hadn’t previously grabbed Maryland and Rutgers. My point is it’s wise to be selective when you are able. The Big 12 is able now and should not rush adding 1 or 3 more. A G5 school should not be part of the conversation.

For all we know they aren’t.

I think it’s pretty clear now the Gonzaga talk was just to highlight how flat footed the PAC is as nobody is hearing anything about it. For all we know UConn is similar although I’d argue UConn brings something no other G5 does.

I’m pretty certain AZ is in already and just formality. The question is if that triggers other developments when it goes concrete. Could be WA/Ore or could be asu/Utah sudden 180. Personally I’d much rather stop at our likely 14 than double up Utah/Arizona knowing ACC adds will be there.

Knowing what AZ wants and is passionate about, the Pac should’ve already added Gonzaga as a basketball affiliate if they were on Yormark’s level of this game, maybe even before USC/UCLA exit.
 
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ESPN is hurting. The best deal they have going is the ACC contract. There is no way ESPN wants teams to try and leave the ACC for the SEC contract (also held by ESPN).

Same reason that we hear rumors that ESPN/FOX do not want the Big 12 to go to 16 right now. They are strapped and did not want to bid on the PAC media deal to begin with. The Big 12 going to 16 just backdoors them into paying for four PAC teams at a time that they are hurting and laying off hundreds.

Not that they don't like the content, they are just trying to save some $$ in the near term.
 
ESPN is hurting. The best deal they have going is the ACC contract. There is no way ESPN wants teams to try and leave the ACC for the SEC contract (also held by ESPN).

Same reason that we hear rumors that ESPN/FOX do not want the Big 12 to go to 16 right now. They are strapped and did not want to bid on the PAC media deal to begin with. The Big 12 going to 16 just backdoors them into paying for four PAC teams at a time that they are hurting and laying off hundreds.

Not that they don't like the content, they are just trying to save some $$ in the near term.

It’s tough to know though if it’s a special hurt or the normal layoff cycles. Streaming coming to a reckoning is perhaps unique, this era where they all loved losing money to pad their subscription #s.

Working with media companies myself you can set your watch by a cycle of huge layoffs and big hiring cycles. Employees are just faceless #s to these media conglomerates.
 
ESPN is hurting. The best deal they have going is the ACC contract. There is no way ESPN wants teams to try and leave the ACC for the SEC contract (also held by ESPN).

Same reason that we hear rumors that ESPN/FOX do not want the Big 12 to go to 16 right now. They are strapped and did not want to bid on the PAC media deal to begin with. The Big 12 going to 16 just backdoors them into paying for four PAC teams at a time that they are hurting and laying off hundreds.

Not that they don't like the content, they are just trying to save some $$ in the near term.
I agree that they are hurting, but the "did not want to big on the PAC media deal" has a lot to do with knowing that the Big 12 would take desired properties in the event of a conference implosion, IMO.
 

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