Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

I won’t believe it until I see it.

With that said, people overstate the ACC contract. It’s not that teams CAN’T leave, it’s just so expensive as to not be very practical. However, IF they can get enough of a bump from the new conference and have donor backfill, a few teams might feel it’s the time.

Again, I have no info and highly doubt it. But it’s not impossible.

There’s just no prescribed process in the contract to break it. As the contract states, the ACC owns the TV rights until 2036. Of course, money can get you out of any contract. It’s just that no one knows how much that is because it is not spelled out like it was with Texas and Oklahoma. Lawyers will need to negotiate that. So how do you initiate an action that you have no idea the cost of? That’s a very risky proposition.
 
So, would Apple be producing those games or would the PAC continue to produce the games and show them on Apple TV? Cause I thought the production costs of the PAC network were some of the issues.
FWIW I've heard Apple botched the audio on Lionel Messi's introduction to MLS. I think Apple would give it a shot, but I've heard this is concerning even if they cover 100 percent of production.

Particularly to OU/UW who is against streaming as a matter of course.
 
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There’s just no prescribed process in the contract to break it. As the contract states, the ACC owns the TV rights until 2036. Of course, money can get you out of any contract. It’s just that no one knows how much that is because it is not spelled out like it was with Texas and Oklahoma. Lawyers will need to negotiate that. So how do you initiate an action that you have no idea the cost of? That’s a very risky proposition.

And how is ESPN in all of this? They cool with letting a great deal blow up? They want to pay FSU and Clemson more for an SEC move when they already own their ass?
 
There’s just no prescribed process in the contract to break it. As the contract states, the ACC owns the TV rights until 2036. Of course, money can get you out of any contract. It’s just that no one knows how much that is because it is not spelled out like it was with Texas and Oklahoma. Lawyers will need to negotiate that. So how do you initiate an action that you have no idea the cost of? That’s a very risky proposition.

I have a feeling if this was true then that process would have already started or is now starting.
 
Yeah, not saying I see any validity to it, just that it's not completely impossible.

If the networks are signing off on things, which one would think is the case, I can't see ESPN agreeing to paying 2-3x more for the same schools just to switch conferences. If I were guessing, I would think they'd try anything and everything to keep the ACC in place as-is for as long as possible.
 
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Something I've learned though this:

1)Call it conditioning, but my hatred of first Nebraska and then Texas is an unquenchable thirst that craves an outlet

2)Utah fills a Texas-shaped hole in my black cold heart. I could listen to their indignant cries of of ego trips gone awry all day every day.

3)On one hand, I want them to wither on the vine and suffer for their crimes.

4)On the other, I want a piece of them, BAD! Let them in, take em down a few pegs, and never let them forget it was the lowly Big 12 that cut them back down to size.
 
I won’t believe it until I see it.

With that said, people overstate the ACC contract. It’s not that teams CAN’T leave, it’s just so expensive as to not be very practical. However, IF they can get enough of a bump from the new conference and have donor backfill, a few teams might feel it’s the time.

Again, I have no info and highly doubt it. But it’s not impossible.
Interestingly, however, they can 'announce' they're leaving at the end of the contract. I know that's far out, but by announcing their intentions, they get the ball rolling for more 'announcements'. And, eventually, the minority become the majority 'left out'. So, in essence, things would escalate for relocation. Possibly to the point of dissolving the GOR with negotiation.
That's 'kind of' what happened with OuT. Which eventually 'negotiated' for early release. But, that was in a conference that took immediate strengthening measures to solidify their members. The ACC faces more odds establishing a 'dedicated' core... IMO
 
I have a feeling if this was true then that process would have already started or is now starting.

If I were the ACC, I wouldn’t start the negotiation until you get a notice to break the contract from the schools. Why let them know the dollar amount ahead of time? There’s no reason you have to negotiate hypotheticals.
 
I won’t believe it until I see it.

With that said, people overstate the ACC contract. It’s not that teams CAN’T leave, it’s just so expensive as to not be very practical. However, IF they can get enough of a bump from the new conference and have donor backfill, a few teams might feel it’s the time.

Again, I have no info and highly doubt it. But it’s not impossible.

I've said this before as well.

Every year that goes by, is one less year of damages a school would cause, and thus have to pay out to leave. I don't think the ACC will stay together until 2036. But it's very possible that when the SEC and Big10 do their next media deals, the Big10/SEC payouts vs the penalty for leaving the ACC early may make financial sense.
 
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Supposedly the ACC teams have a deadline of August 14 or 15 if they want to make a move for next year and its driving wild speculation. FSU and Clemson are the only large schools that are highly coveted and constantly talking about wanting out, this helps drive speculation around them. ORWA enter the speculation for a few reasons: National Media guys have said the B1G wouldn't take from the PAC again until the Big12 does because of optics, the Big12 has checked that box for them. ORWA is looking at an even more diminished PAC membership and are more willing to negotiate the shares. The extremely wild speculation is that they could use the savings from ORWA and give it to FSU and Clemson to make up for what they're going to owe the ACC. I'm not sure if that is even possible, but its certainly driving some of the talk about those 4 schools going to the B1G. I'll believe that one when I see it.
 
Anyone else noticing their mind kind of check out or go blank with any mention of ACC football?

I admit fully that I am biased toward the middle of the country, but I can't bring myself to give the ACC any attention beyond Clemson. Even FSU and Miami just doesn't do it for me, and this goes way beyond realignment talk.

The ACC is just such a bad football product. I can't be the only one. I wish we'd just go back to not talking about them lol.
 
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Supposedly the ACC teams have a deadline of August 14 or 15 if they want to make a move for next year and its driving wild speculation. FSU and Clemson are the only large schools that are highly coveted and constantly talking about wanting out, this helps drive speculation around them. ORWA enter the speculation for a few reasons: National Media guys have said the B1G wouldn't take from the PAC again until the Big12 does because of optics, the Big12 has checked that box for them. ORWA is looking at an even more diminished PAC membership and are more willing to negotiate the shares. The extremely wild speculation is that they could use the savings from ORWA and give it to FSU and Clemson to make up for what they're going to owe the ACC. I'm not sure if that is even possible, but its certainly driving some of the talk about those 4 schools going to the B1G. I'll believe that one when I see it.
Why isn't Miami coveted more? Not arguing that they should or should not be, I'm jw what the consensus is here.
 
Yeah, not saying I see any validity to it, just that it's not completely impossible.

If the networks are signing off on things, which one would think is the case, I can't see ESPN agreeing to paying 2-3x more for the same schools just to switch conferences. If I were guessing, I would think they'd try anything and everything to keep the ACC in place as-is for as long as possible.
It’s not just ESPN signing off on it. The ACC holds the media rights to all ACC teams for 13 more years. Either the acquiring conference would be unable to broadcast any home games for that period of time (the ACC owns it) or they would have to agree, with their media partners, to either pay the ACC an astronomical figure to buy those rights or break the contract and see what happens in court (along with the ability of the ACC to engage in discovery). I see no conference willing to take that risk - besides ESPN would tell the SEC hell no to adding any team and the BIG TV partners would probably do the same. They all have a vested interest in protecting GOR’s and FSU ain’t worth the risk.
 
I won’t believe it until I see it.

With that said, people overstate the ACC contract. It’s not that teams CAN’T leave, it’s just so expensive as to not be very practical. However, IF they can get enough of a bump from the new conference and have donor backfill, a few teams might feel it’s the time.

Again, I have no info and highly doubt it. But it’s not impossible.

Doesn't the grant of rights mean that the ACC would own the media rights to those teams, even if they are in a different conference?
 
The acc schools are going to be a bit humbled, especially the "football" schools. None fit the big ten and the sec already dominates those areas geographically. They aren't the slam dunk most think, they'll play the Oregon and Washington Tweener roles in the next wave.
 

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