Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[isucy86]

Could get a little weird for Fox and UCONN. Not sure Fox would be hyped about losing their best Big East basketball program to a rival network.

This is the crazy part. I am pretty sure with the Big12's new deal includes FOX televising some Big12 hoops games. So ESPN isn't exclusive.

The Big East & FOX deal expires after 2025 season. So does FOX see more value to UConn men's & WOMEN'S hoops in Big12 or Big East?

 

[1UNI2ISU]

According to the podcast, it’s Kansas and one other school, I forget which one (TTech, Under Armor?) that aren’t Nike already. The other schools contract ends after this year. There is obviously Kansas and Adidas and they didn’t know when that ended. Which is odd, since a quick google search shows it through 2031. So, they aren’t getting Kansas.

It is Tech. It's crazy that the league is pretty universally Nike. The Big 12 is an outlier on that one.

 

[Stormin]

It's a good point. Oregon has a touch over 4 million people, which isn't that much larger than Iowa (though I expect that gap to widen as time goes on). Portland is a nice market, but it's no Seattle or Bay Area.

Nike/Knight has been good to them, but people don't realize just how many people and how much money is in Texas. Which is probably hard to grasp when we're approaching it as outsiders.

Oregon is a national brand. Top 10 recruiting. Hell yes. And they have 33% more population than Iowa. Which Iowa State competes for fans with the Hawkeyes. Getting Oregon is a homerun.

 

[jctisu]

Is it, though? If, as it’s been said, UConn doesn’t add to the media deal, you‘re splitting the same pie 14 ways instead of 13 (and yes, I’d assume UConn wouldn’t be getting a full share, but they’d be getting something).

UConn currently makes like $3.7M or something like that. You could probably get them for like $13-$15M and that would still be a grand slam for them. And we get them cheap.

 

[Gunnerclone]

And Oregon would never get that treatment. Phil Knight may have set up an endowment, as some have said, but the ties to Nike they have now, will eventually end or at least slow down when he passes. Texas is Texas, because of the State of Texas. The State of Oregon will never have that population or media power.

And they have no leverage. They have options, but no leverage right now. They may find they have leverage in whatever the PAC becomes, don’t know if that’s worth it to them though. Texas always had leverage in the Big 12.

 

[isucy86]

Because SDSU is a horrible take and idea.

And if SDSU can't afford the $34M exit fee to join Pac12 for 2024 season. How can they afford exit fee to join Big12 next year?

UConn is an independent in FB.

 

[Cyched]

Oregon is a national brand. Top 10 recruiting. Hell yes. And they have 33% more population than Iowa. Which Iowa State competes for fans with the Hawkeyes. Getting Oregon is a homerun.

Agree. It was the Nike $$ that helped them become a “cool” brand. They do have to share their state too, but they’re the big fish.

Oregon would be a good add, they also don’t seem to act as arrogant as some of the other national brands. Why we were listing out the other stuff above.

 

[Clonefan94]

And they have no leverage. They have options, but no leverage right now. They may find they have leverage in whatever the PAC becomes, don’t know if that’s worth it to them though. Texas always had leverage in the Big 12.

And with all the Nike talk. Phil may not like the Big 12, but if his brand still matters to him he needs to show off those Duck Uniforms on National TV somehow. Not sure the existing PAC is going to get that for them.

 

[jctisu]

This is how I picture BY getting out of bed every morning, and hopefully into a meeting with Oregon and Washington.

Hopefully this is followed with the good McGregor and not the bum who hasn’t won a meaningful fight in like 7 years. We don’t need BY getting slept.

 

[Cyched]

And with all the Nike talk. Phil may not like the Big 12, but if his brand still matters to him he needs to show off those Duck Uniforms on National TV somehow. Not sure the existing PAC is going to get that for them.

Not so fast, the green slime on Nickelodeon would complement them nicely.

 

[tman24]

Don't think the non-Nike schools in the league would be cool with that.

That's only Kansas and Texas tech.

 

[jctisu]

So do people in the northeast just look at leaves on Saturdays in the fall or what? They don’t watch their teams play college football and I think it would be a little brisk to go to the ocean. Clean up the trawler maybe?

New England is a professional sports haven. College athletics are just not a big deal up here except for college hoops.

 

[t-noah]

People around here talking About Oregon and Washington like they’re….TEXAS Lol. No matter what Texas has or hasn’t done recently in football they have been and always will be a football blue blood. They are also a HUGE brand. Probably as big as all of the PAC football brands combined. Stop looking at season records from your recent memory, that’s not what any of this is about. If ND went 0-12 for the next 5 years the Big 10 would still murder their own families to get them in that league.

Um, perhaps you could have used a different analogy or mataphor?You made your point but sheesh! LOL

 

[qwerty]

Don't think the non-Nike schools in the league would be cool with that.

For the right price I bet they would cozy up to the idea

 

[qwerty]

That's only Kansas and Texas tech.

Does that include the four newbies? Are they all Nike also?

 

[longdriveforsom]

Does that include the four newbies? Are they all Nike also?

Cincinnati is UA

 

[RustShack]

Man people are really running with the weird idea of becoming the Nike Big12.

 

[jdoggivjc]

New England is a professional sports haven. College athletics are just not a big deal up here except for college hoops.

It's not just New England; it's the vast majority of the Northeast north of the Mason-Dixon line. Pretty much the lone exception to this is Penn St.

 

[RezClone]

I'm not going to listen again (it is about a 2 hour POD), but these guys had a good discussion on the matter.

I'll try to summarize and partially answer your question: UO has offended the B1G & it's possible the B1G doesn't want them anymore. BY is a forward thinker & don't underestimate what he might do to entice UO. For example BY might allow Big 12 to accept naming rights. If so, perhaps BY and Phil Knight agree to something like 'The Nike Big 16' conference or whatever. This could entice UO longterm, financially, via UO's primary benefactor, Knight. They go on from there, and many other points worth considering. Near the middle and end, they all get into the ACC a bit, and the stronger possibility now that it is going to break up sooner vs. later.

It's a good listen. I thought it was very informative.

Yes, if UO/WA are in the Big 12 for a short period of time, then get an invite to the P2, let them go. They will pay their out fee per whatever GOR is agreed to.

In princple, I'm actually not opposed to the idea of selling naming rights. Im pretty much firmly on the BY 'think outside the box' train

HOWEVER, off the top of my head, KU's affiliation with Adidas and TTU's affiliation Under Armor would be immediately problematic with respect to partnering with Nike as a conference. Leave it to a K-State guy to not immediately recognize it lol. (referencing the pod video, not OP)

 

[Cyched]

It's not just New England; it's the vast majority of the Northeast north of the Mason-Dixon line. Pretty much the lone exception to this is Penn St.

It‘s interesting because the “state universities” aren‘t very high visibility up in the northeast. Penn St is the only public northeastern school in a major conference (Syracuse and BC are private).

UConn is a public state school, but has been stuck a notch below power status for reasons not entirely of their doing. There is some potential upside there. Different dynamics and culture at play, but people in NE will still follow a winner.