I don’t think you can use that as an excuse the way things are going. Gotta shoot your shot these days or end up buried.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I don’t think you can use that as an excuse the way things are going. Gotta shoot your shot these days or end up buried.
Maybe the PAC realized they're not going to get anything better than signing onto the ACC's $17M/year media deal.
but the best thing the acc has going is its GOR. they arent endangering that. at least not for until 2030 or later.
What does this mean? Trade up? Trade up for a higher spot in some unknown draft portal? Dumb!
Except Oregon needs football to be relevant where UW doesn’t. UW also has the massive political issues to deal with that aren’t as bad as the Cali schools but pretty close.
It’s obv it’s Oregon
fair enough. i just dont like the idea of renting schools in the short term. i want long term conference mates.
What would your list of schools be to make an ultimate Vacation Spot Conference...interesting. Hawaii, some school in Alaska (lots of people like it up there), one or two Florida schools, SDSU (the Cali one), does Colorado make the list?
Every school in the B12 would drop the conference if the B10 comes calling. That doesn't mean any of them can do a damn thing to make that invitation come. That's the difference between OR/WA in the B12 vs Texas. If OR and WA threaten to leave unless they get some concession, everyone will just laugh at them. At the same time, if a school does get the invite, no available concession would keep them around.
Wow. I have semi-defended him for his initial report which covered a lot of ground, including culture and academics. But this is deranged. It's a plan to commit financial suicide and become a bigger Ivy League.
First, if that is what you want, then take Rice instead of one of the others.
Second, Oregon, AZ, and AZ St are absolutely NOT signing up for that. Wash and Utah might not either.
It's ludicrous.
That said, it's probably their least bad plan right now. How the mighty have fallen.
Washington has always been way more of a geographic island than people realize.
In terms of what isn't a "fit"...maybe some still care about academic profile but the Pac is gonna bring in SMU, Fresno, etc...so might as well go Big 12.
They fit with the Big 12 better than SDSU, Cal, Stanford in that they have a real true fanbase.
In terms of being in a big city as opposed to a small college town, the Big 12 now has Houston, Dallas, Denver, SLC, Orlando, and potentially Phoenix. Boulder/Provo is basically Denver/SLC, we're talking 15 minutes and you can't tell when you leave one and enter the other.
The main reason I don't care to add Washington is I am sick of teams looking to be elsewhere. They aren't far enough away from a definitive Big Ten "NO" for me. Let them hold a weakened Pac together for a few years and if they don't get their invite they can come thrilled to be part of B12.
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And that understanding would be on the table from the beginning. This wouldn't be a Texas wandering eyes situation.
It's not about who would leave because you're right they all would, ISU obviously included.
It's about who has already been vetted and passed over.
I want the absolute best 16-20 teams that have been vetted and passed over by the mega cash duopoly.
Colorado and Arizona seem to be the absolute best available in that crowd now given that we already have the Utah program with the highest upside.
Which you can live with that. If the Big 12 has to borrow Oregon and Washington for a few years in order to establish themselves as the #3 you absolutely do it.
On the flip side, if the Big 12 can bring in OU and UW as well as CU and AZ, the next TV contract is going to be much closer to what the SEC and B1G have. The gap isn't as wide as the media nutsacks want you to believe.
Things you will hear after this meeting:
- "We took a vote, and everyone in that room is fully committed to the PAC12 moving forward."
- "We have already identified several candidate schools who we believe will enhance the brand."
- "We are working with the ACC on a scheduling partnership that will be a first if it's kind coast versus coast challenge, which we believe will be very attractive to our future media partners."
GK is disgusting off the old Dan Beebe playbook. But unless you hear they have an offer in hand for a media deal that's paying out more than $30 million per school, nothing GK, or any of the ADs or school presidents, says means anything.
I'm just kind of curious if he put anything like this out when USCLA went down. No? That's what I thought.
Just like Scheer said last night..
Others in the media need to call this out. So ridiculous.
I agree with you on wrt Stanford and Cal. Washington & Utah also somewhat agree ASU cares but is a pretender.
however, I don't think it's that big a deal big of a deal to Oregon, OSU, WSU, or AZ.