Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[MisterO]

Better be WA or OR. Preferably OR. Everyone else is second rate.

Oregon St and Washington St might be the teams to watch right now. Oregon and Washington are likely getting a BIG invite with possibly Cal & Stanford joining them.
The 4 corners will not likely get a BIG invite and would then come to the B12…so that leaves OSU and Wazzu without a home. If I were those two schools, I’d be trying to get in to the B12 with Colorado yesterday.

 

[KidSilverhair]

Everyone keeps bringing up Rutgers/B1G as a reason for adding UConn to the Big XII. The thing is I don’t think there’s a bigger case of buyer’s remorse anywhere in realignment than the Big 10 has with Rutgers. All I ever hear up here in Michigan is how Rutgers doesn’t fit culturally or competitively, and how it didn’t add the NYC market the way everyone thought it would (stunner). All i ever hear about up here is if the Big 10 could undo one decision it would be Rutgers.

The Maryland/Rutgers add to the B1G really can’t be used to compare with any kind of realignment today. The BTN and its ability to add paying cable subscribers in NY/NJ and the Baltimore/DC area made adding those two make sense, certainly at the time. No other conference has that kind of direct connection between a conference-owned cable channel and expansion … it just doesnt work that way with TV markets any more.

If the B12 had its own cable network, and we were magically transported back 10 years, then sure, adding B12TV to all the cable systems in the Bay Area would’ve made great financial sense. But in today’s cord-cutting world, even with a dedicated cable network you can’t be guaranteed to make money just by getting into more-populated media markets.

 

[KnappShack]

Expansion without a media deal. Good luck with that.

I love a long shot win story.

But this sure doesn't feel like that so far.

 

[heitclone]

Mega thread is eatin today.

 

[ISUTex]

The issue to think about with Cal, Stanford, UCLA and SDSU is there are almost no actual real fans. I'm not far from the Rose Bowl and you'd never know a game is being played compared to how Ames turns into a carnival celebration every football saturday. I happen to have Stanford, UCLA and SDSU alum friends/coworkders, I know way more about their teams than they do. They don't even know when they make the Final Four.

Even SDSU is a better school than people realize, and those other three are globally elite. It's time to ask what that really does or doesn't do for an athletic conference. My guess is not nearly as much as was always thought.

UCLA is going to be playing road games at home in the Big Ten for a few seasons with people turning it into a fall vacation. It's a stunningly beautiful place, great area, perfect fall climate and no locals show up to games. SDSU would be the same way in the Big 12. Not sure if Big Ten/Big 12 fans would make vacations for Cal/Stanford.

Cal and Stanford are located in an extremely beautiful part of the world. Not sure why people wouldn't want to vacation in the Bay area.

 

[KidSilverhair]

Wilner is just too busy to post right now guys. He needs some time to build up his list of why they didn't want Colorado anyway.

“37 Reasons Why Tulane and SMU Bring More To The Table Than Colorado: a thread”

 

[ClonerJams]

I'd rather have Washington than Oregon. Who knows what happens to Oregon when Phil Knight passes.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

I'm talking myself into believing the surprise is Washington. Just feels like they've got less leverage than Oregon at this point *cough PHIL KNIGHT cough* and may want to get out in front of this to assure their spot even if the Big Ten is the end goal.

 

[convoluteme]

Let's argue the four corner schools end up in the Big 12.

Wonder if the remaining 8 take SDSU, Tulane, SMU, and god knows who else just to keep P5 status and a playoff spot?

If the 4 corners end up in the Big 12, there will only be 6 Pac programs remaining.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Cal and Stanford are located in an extremely beautiful part of the world. Not sure why people wouldn't want to vacation in the Bay area.

Hawaii is a beautiful place to vacation. Doesn’t mean I want to add the U of Hawaii to the conference.

 

[mitchforcy]

And why does that matter … I mean, Utah does. Do you think USC and UCLA don’t look down on the B12?

It doesn't matter unless unless you're trying to get them to join the big 12. Schools that think very highly of themselves like Cal and Stanford don't want to be associated a conference that doesn't have a single institution that they would deem a "peer".

 

[FerShizzle]

Hawaii is a beautiful place to vacation. Doesn’t mean I want to add the U of Hawaii to the conference.

Well now that you mention it… add em to the list.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

I think it goes both ways with Maryland. Their fans would probably be happier in the ACC.

I don’t think this is true with the state of realignment. But I get it

 

[mj4cy]

If the 4 corners end up in the Big 12, there will only be 6 Pac programs remaining.

Math is hard....same concept though...you'd think remaining schools would want to keep the conference together for that seat at the table...even if they make less money.

 

[ISUCubswin]

It’ll be Washington tonight/tomorrow, Oregon and Arizona will then make the move early next week.

 

[RoseClone]

It’ll be Washington tonight/tomorrow, Oregon and Arizona will then make the move early next week.

That would be unreal

 

[CoachHines3]

It’ll be Washington tonight/tomorrow, Oregon and Arizona will then make the move early next week.

Guess we'll see if BY really means he wants to stay at 14.

We're at 13 right now (after OU/TX leave). Washington could make 14.

Do we stop? Or get up to 16 with AZ/Oregon?

I'd argue 16 with those 4 new ones is a strong add.

 

[Clonefan94]

Hawaii is a beautiful place to vacation. Doesn’t mean I want to add the U of Hawaii to the conference.

I'll never understand the infatuation with some people of adding schools because of the vacation opportunities. I love ISU, but I certainly do not base all of my vacations on whether or not ISU is playing there.

Is the University of Barcelona in a conference yet? I've always wanted to go to Spain.

 

[ISUCubswin]

Guess we'll see if BY really means he wants to stay at 14.

We're at 13 right now (after OU/TX leave). Washington could make 14.

Do we stop? Or get up to 16 with AZ/Oregon?

I'd argue 16 with those 4 new ones is a strong add.

You get Washington, you can’t stop at 14. Make it 16, be the same as the other P3 schools.

 

[exCyDing]

Cal and Stanford are located in an extremely beautiful part of the world. Not sure why people wouldn't want to vacation in the Bay area.

The B12 is looking for schools that add to the conference's bottom line. Also, just as an FYI, you can plan a vacation that doesn't including catching and ISU game. I mean, it is an option.