Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[exCyDing]

Also wrt to Oregon and Washington... they are the best of the PAC but if you take them they will always be looking to the B1G and rumors will swirl every year. Maybe best to pass on them in the name of staying cohesive.

That’s a good point. As much as it would bolster the B12 in the short term if OR/WA came aboard, do we really need two schools that would take a B10 offer at the drop of a hat? I mean, with the 4 new schools coming on board, we already have 12 that would do just that.

All kidding aside, there’s not a damn thing OR or WA can do to get themselves into the B10. The B10 will take them when they’re good and ready, it doesn’t matter what conference they’re in when that day comes. And there’s no guarantee that day ever comes.

 

[cyfan92]

No, it's a massive game changer for FB and MBB. The big donors don't need to donate much, as the increased TV deal $ can cover that. Instead all the big donors just go all in on NIL.

It's unfortunate, but Iowa is about to massively open the gap on us in terms of resources and NIL. Not saying we can't compete, as $ doesn't equal wins, but it's going to be more difficult moving forward for sure IMO.

I agree in principle. But now that Iowa can't hide in the West anymore, how bad will 6-6 or worse season's be treated? Go peep the 2024 schedule for Iowa versus 2023

 

[isucy86]

The soonest this can happen is 2031. Why take UCONN now and subsidize them when the ACC could be open for business at that time? Maybe UCONN is an option then, but you’re paying them until that point. It’s not like they’re taking multiple offers right now.

Why would the Big12 need to subsidize UConn? It's the norm for Conferences to take new members at a partial share. I believe UCF, BYU, etc are getting less than a full share. Rutgers, Maryland and Nebraska joined the Big10 at partial shares.

UConn maybe makes $10M annually in TV money through their Big East affiliation and championships. The Big12 full share TV & Championship $ will be between $50-$55M starting in 2026.

If the Big12 adds UConn, I would expect UConn to subsidize current Big12 schools. The Big12 will skim some of UConn's CFP and media rights monies and distribute to the current 8 or 12 until the Big12's next TV Deal in 2031.

The best way to ensure UConn football is P5 level is to give them access to $20M of new revenue to spend on coaches, facilities, etc.

Gotta invest to make money. The Big12 may want to invest in UConn. Yormark knows the score.

 

[keepngoal]

That’s a good point. As much as it would bolster the B12 in the short term if OR/WA came aboard, do we really need two schools that would take a B10 offer at the drop of a hat? I mean, with the 4 new schools coming on board, we already have 12 that would do just that.

All kidding aside, there’s not a damn thing OR or WA can do to get themselves into the B10. The B10 will take them when they’re good and ready, it doesn’t matter what conference they’re in when that day comes. And there’s no guarantee that day ever comes.

who wouldn't take a B10 offer at the drop of a hat?

 

[Gunnerclone]

Why would the Big12 need to subsidize UConn? It's the norm for Conferences to take new members at a partial share. I believe UCF, BYU, etc are getting less than a full share. Rutgers, Maryland and Nebraska joined the Big10 at partial shares.

UConn maybe makes $10M annually in TV money through their Big East affiliation and championships. The Big12 full share TV & Championship $ will be between $50-$55M starting in 2026.

If the Big12 adds UConn, I would expect UConn to subsidize current Big12 schools. The Big12 will skim some of UConn's CFP and media rights monies and distribute to the current 8 or 12 until the Big12's next TV Deal in 2031.

The best way to ensure UConn football is P5 level is to give them access to $20M of new revenue to spend on coaches, facilities, etc.

Gotta invest to make money. The Big12 may want to invest in UConn. Yormark knows the score.

Nice post. The thinking in this thread is so short-sighted and bland (they don’t add value! Which no one can really define or quantify). You don’t bring a guy like BY in if you are looking to just play the same game everyone else is playing (which is a losing game imo).

 

[simply1]

I think it’s possible that Disney will be involved with Bob back in control of Disney. Really depends on his view of live sports.

 

[OldCurmudgeon]

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Doubt that..CW is over the air. You can get it on your antenna.

Who has an antenna these days? This coming from a boomer.

 

[Cy94]

Who has an antenna these days? This coming from a boomer.

We get our local channels on our AppleTv with an antenna and the Tablo app.

 

[t-noah]

Only if the university is willing to count NIL money just like a donation to the university. I really doubt that few will be willing to do so. If all these universities are rolling in the dole, then why not roll back ticket prices to their fans? Is the federal government going to allow you to take a tax deduction on an NIL donation like it does a donation to the university?

Many schools have programs set up that tie your donation rate to where you can sit in the stadium, will EIU continue to do so for the guy that instead of giving that money to the schools, donates it to the NIL. Remember NIL cannot now have anything to do with university, and they are not allowed to control those funds. Now that could change in the future, but as of today, they have to be separate.

I would think that the mega donors will divert more of their money to NIL as media value and marketing will make up a bigger portion of the AD annual operating budget. While media money won’t overtake the entire annual AD budget, it’ll be a higher percentage. I think you’ll see less aggressive increases in donation levels, particularly at the top to fund the AD budget. Saving the bigger donors to other things such as capital improvements and NIL.

I doubt too many people donating 5 to 10 grand a year to the athletic program are taking the standard deduction on their taxes. I am not talking about the person giving $500 to get his tickets, but people that are paying in the thousands each year.

Are schools going to treat your donation to the NIL fund the same as they do donations to the athletic department, if so, then people might start switching them over, otherwise they will continue to donate to the university to hold their tickets each year.

NIL might not get the perk benefits of points for NIL contribution. And immensely wealthy people move to the front when they start making loan donations. Points probably aren’t even considered. Large donors would still be able to deduct NIL contribution on their itemized deductions just like a donation to the Iowa State Gridiron Club.

If I am donating $2500 a year to get four seats in the new South endzone, then paying $950 each for the seats, is ISU going to be ok with me giving that money to a NIL instead of the Iowa State Gridiron Club, which is a fund-raising part of the ISU athletic department, strictly for football.

Donations to the Gridiron Club are deductible because they are part of the university, an NIL under the current rules cannot be part of the university and must be a separate institution.

All interesting points here. I think the universities will easily have a way of knowing how much a person has contributed to NIL. I'm not sure how they would, as university and NIL need to be separate. But count on them knowing. They can make their ticket allotment sales accordingly. Not sure on the tax write off thing.

I hope it is a huge problem for them, but somehow I doubt it will be.

 

[2speedy1]

Respectfully disagree. BB and FB will soon separate their contracts. If/when that is the case, the media promotion will shift dramatically, likely, leaning on B12 BB promotions a few weeks before the BB season starts. Furthermore, due to the FB audience, there's already a venue to capture the fans in that market during FB broadcasts. FB doesn't have that luxury because the only college sports in the summer are not big markets.

Soon? We havent even started our next contract yet, and you say Soon? When it wont happen until at least the next contract after the new one.

I would say maybe someday it is possible but we have no idea what the next contract negotiation will be. Whos to say that the media partners will agree to split them? They could flat out refuse to offer any deals with them split.

BY has said he wants to do this, in the future, but no real concrete plan to actually make it happen and not at all for quite a few years.

 

[2speedy1]

Why would the Big12 need to subsidize UConn? It's the norm for Conferences to take new members at a partial share. I believe UCF, BYU, etc are getting less than a full share. Rutgers, Maryland and Nebraska joined the Big10 at partial shares.

UConn maybe makes $10M annually in TV money through their Big East affiliation and championships. The Big12 full share TV & Championship $ will be between $50-$55M starting in 2026.

If the Big12 adds UConn, I would expect UConn to subsidize current Big12 schools. The Big12 will skim some of UConn's CFP and media rights monies and distribute to the current 8 or 12 until the Big12's next TV Deal in 2031.

The best way to ensure UConn football is P5 level is to give them access to $20M of new revenue to spend on coaches, facilities, etc.

Gotta invest to make money. The Big12 may want to invest in UConn. Yormark knows the score.

The 4 new schools are only getting a partial share for 1 year. Next year when the new contract starts they are getting full share. And that came out of the irate 8s shares, which is partially being repaid by the OUT exit fees.

 

[2Xclone]

Who has an antenna these days? This coming from a boomer.

I have an antenna for local channels.

 

[KnappShack]

Who has an antenna these days? This coming from a boomer.

I did a package to include locals with internet. I've never plugged in the box, but it's cheaper than internet only.

 

[helechopper]

who wouldn't take a B10 offer at the drop of a hat?

ISU belongs in the SEC.


<—- SESea pirate

 

[AuH2O]

I doubt too many people donating 5 to 10 grand a year to the athletic program are taking the standard deduction on their taxes. I am not talking about the person giving $500 to get his tickets, but people that are paying in the thousands each year.

Are schools going to treat your donation to the NIL fund the same as they do donations to the athletic department, if so, then people might start switching them over, otherwise they will continue to donate to the university to hold their tickets each year.

NIL is outside of the universities. Collectives are not university owned, operated or affiliated. In fact they probably MUST keep their distance.

The point is NIL has and will continue to divert donor dollars that were going to the university athletic department. Schools with the bigger media payouts are going to be in much better shape to deal with that.

 

[SEIOWA CLONE]

All interesting points here. I think the universities will easily have a way of knowing how much a person has contributed to NIL. I'm not sure how they would, as university and NIL need to be separate. But count on them knowing. They can make their ticket allotment sales accordingly. Not sure on the tax write off thing.

I hope it is a huge problem for them, but somehow I doubt it will be.

I believe the university's want to keep them separate, because down the road they do not want this to turn into these players claiming that they were employees of the university, and thereby should have all the rights and benefits that an employee would have. If the NIL set up is outside the grasp of the university they cannot claim to be employees.

 

[t-noah]

ISU belongs in the SEC.


<—- SESea pirate

I believe we have strong cultural bonds with both Mississippi schools.

; )

 

[7Got6]

No, it's a massive game changer for FB and MBB. The big donors don't need to donate much, as the increased TV deal $ can cover that. Instead all the big donors just go all in on NIL.

It's unfortunate, but Iowa is about to massively open the gap on us in terms of resources and NIL. Not saying we can't compete, as $ doesn't equal wins, but it's going to be more difficult moving forward for sure IMO.

That’s been the play of the programs that have successfully navigated this. For Iowa, the roadblock has been Barta. He’s effectively viewed the NIL as competition for funds.

 

[tman24]

Who has an antenna these days? This coming from a boomer.

I have it as a backup if the internet goes down.

 

[t-noah]

Why would the Big12 need to subsidize UConn? It's the norm for Conferences to take new members at a partial share. I believe UCF, BYU, etc are getting less than a full share. Rutgers, Maryland and Nebraska joined the Big10 at partial shares.

UConn maybe makes $10M annually in TV money through their Big East affiliation and championships. The Big12 full share TV & Championship $ will be between $50-$55M starting in 2026.

If the Big12 adds UConn, I would expect UConn to subsidize current Big12 schools. The Big12 will skim some of UConn's CFP and media rights monies and distribute to the current 8 or 12 until the Big12's next TV Deal in 2031.

The best way to ensure UConn football is P5 level is to give them access to $20M of new revenue to spend on coaches, facilities, etc.

Gotta invest to make money. The Big12 may want to invest in UConn. Yormark knows the score.

Nice post. The thinking in this thread is so short-sighted and bland (they don’t add value! Which no one can really define or quantify). You don’t bring a guy like BY in if you are looking to just play the same game everyone else is playing (which is a losing game imo).

No idea what's going to happen with UCONN & the Big 12, but I'd be comfortable with UCONN FB over a fairly short period of time (in the Big 12). I don't doubt one bit that they would blossom into a respectable FB program if presented with the greater cash flow & prestige of being a Big 12 member.

They are already great with BB, and would provide another potential anchor in a future east expansion.