Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[Cyched]

Alas we've got another deadline:

I could crack a safe with my nipples right now. This is delightful.

 

[theshadow]

We know Big12 has plenty of time to wait, but how soon does the Big12 need to know for scheduling in 2024? October? January? At some point, its' not that you won't get an invite, but that you have missed the window for 2024.

The window for July 2024 is basically closed, barring a lot of money changing hands.

 

[Pope]

Tradition and rivalries, what we all say the new realignments have killed. We can't chastise them for holding onto what we wish the rest of us could have.

A few more years of traditions and rivalries vs significantly more money, exposure, and security. Hmmm....

 

[CascadeClone]

A few more years of traditions and rivalries vs significantly more money, exposure, and security. Hmmm....

Josh Pate likes to say that "money is undefeated".

 

[jcyclonee]

I could crack a safe with my nipples right now. This is delightful.

^^^^So Hot!^^^^

 

[brett108]

The short deal expected is what will keep the Pac together. They are reasoning that the market forces won't be as bad when they do this again in 3-4 years.

Viewership for live events is dropping. Not as fast as other forms of entertainment but it is. I don’t think these deals get bigger in the future.

 

[Acylum]

I could crack a safe with my nipples right now. This is delightful.

Please tell me you’re a woman.

 

[Pope]

If a conference has a media day and there's no media in attendance, does it make a sound?

 

[Cyched]

Please tell me you’re a woman.

 

[Gunnerclone]

This is one thing that I’ve noticed and it happens in the media and with posters on here. People just assume? think? are fed the line? that lawyers and consultants don’t **** up.

 

[FerShizzle]

This is one thing that I’ve noticed and it happens in the media and with posters on here. People just assume? think? are fed the line? that lawyers and consultants don’t **** up.

they 100% were told they would be offered a membership by now that never came.

 

[RoseClone]

Remember that time when it looked like Iowa State’s best hope for survival might have been joining a few other Big XII refugees and hoping for a PAC invite? It wasn’t all that long ago … my, things sure do change

And will again.

 

[RonBurgundy]

they 100% were told they would be offered a membership by now that never came.

I do think SDSU handled this badly, they should have had the attorneys work back channels with MWC before this all blew up publicly, but I also put at least 50% of this mess on the PAC which clearly knew the deadlines and could not get their **** together in time (or the deal was so bad they had no choice but to screw over SDSU in the timing).

 

[isucy86]

It almost feels like the AZ AD is trying to layout multiple rationales for bailing. As if he has made up his mind but needs to have the "well, we said this was a must and they didn't deliver". No need to say it out loud in public if you just want GK to know what your MIRs are.

As far as Labor Day, how ridiculous. We know Big12 has plenty of time to wait, but how soon does the Big12 need to know for scheduling in 2024? October? January? At some point, its' not that you won't get an invite, but that you have missed the window for 2024. And now you're screwed, either stuck in the Pac or else playing a home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home-and-home with San Diego State.

We've joked maybe GK's strategy is to string everyone out until they have no other choices left, but if they are still effing around in ~November, wouldn't you have to just say "enough" and head to the Big12?

This year's schedule wasn't released until January 31, 2023- so not much urgency on the Big12's side.

IMO Pac12 Presidents might feel some urgency in creating the fiscal 2024/25 budgets if they have to wait until September to know Pac12 media deal net revenue impact.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

This year's schedule wasn't released until January 31, 2023- so not much urgency on the Big12's side.

IMO Pac12 Presidents might feel some urgency in creating the fiscal 2024/25 budgets if they have to wait until September to know Pac12 media deal net revenue impact.

This is the key. Pac12 member schools financial meetings for the 24/25 budgets are probably already having preliminary discussions. The longer this drags out the more uncomfortable those internal meetings become and at some point someone in that room is going to suggest jumping to the Big12 so they have some kind of certainty in the numbers for the AD.

 

[isucy86]

The streaming percentage will be interesting. I'd say Oregon might say if linear is above 25% they're good with it because they'll always be on linear. Oregon St. and WSU might be fine if it meant more money, because they probably aren't going to be on linear if it's anything less than 50%, outside of their in-state rivalry games.

I think the teams most concerned about that mix are going to be the likes of UW, Utah, and probably CU. CU probably thinks they could rack up some linear slots with the Sanders interest. Utah has been a good brand, but knows they are going usually lose out to OU in the TV pecking order, and if CU is even decent they'll get some of those slots, especially early in the year. I'd say that difference between 25 and 50% linear is going to cost Utah, UW and maybe CU along with any of the others that might have a better than expected season.

The detail gets lost when throwing out percentages like 80%. If the Pac 12 stays at 10 teams, that would mean 1 game a week is shown on linear TV and the other 4 on a streaming service. That has to be a scary thought for Pac12 football coaches.

I would think for coaches to approve any deal the Pac12 needs at least 2 games on linear TV:

• A prime slot game at 3pm or 7pm CT
• A late Saturday game at 9:30 CT

The conflict would be why would a streamer pay the majority of the rights fees for lesser time slots or teams? Which then leads to the 4 corner school's conundrum of being stuck predominately on streaming. If I was President/AD at any Pac12 team other than OR WA, I would want the media contract to specify minimum # of games annually my school played on linear.

 

[KnappShack]

This is the key. Pac12 member schools financial meetings for the 24/25 budgets are probably already having preliminary discussions. The longer this drags out the more uncomfortable those internal meetings become and at some point someone in that room is going to suggest jumping to the Big12 so they have some kind of certainty in the numbers for the AD.

I felt for the Washington State AD. He was hoping for numbers a month ago and trying to make a budget work.

Another reminder that all of this sucks

 

[Acylum]

This is the key. Pac12 member schools financial meetings for the 24/25 budgets are probably already having preliminary discussions. The longer this drags out the more uncomfortable those internal meetings become and at some point someone in that room is going to suggest jumping to the Big12 so they have some kind of certainty in the numbers for the AD.

Without going into a lengthy explanation, this is why I think nobody jumps if they don’t do so before the deal is announced.

 

[MugNight]

they 100% were told they would be offered a membership by now that never came.

Scheer had a tweet many months ago that someone in SDSU admin (might have been AD) was telling boosters at a swim event that they would be joining the PAC in a matter of weeks. Again this was months ago…

 

[Clonehomer]

This year's schedule wasn't released until January 31, 2023- so not much urgency on the Big12's side.

IMO Pac12 Presidents might feel some urgency in creating the fiscal 2024/25 budgets if they have to wait until September to know Pac12 media deal net revenue impact.

The only thing the Big12 really has to worry about for dates is for the TV deal. I’d be a bit disappointed if the TV deal weren’t already agreed to in principle before any offers were made to UA and CU, but there’s still details that’ll need worked out. So I wouldn’t think the date is as critical as it is for schools looking to leave a conference with a TV deal in place. But I can’t imagine this can go into the fall and still happen for 2024.