Haha, no. There are 8 people in my family, we could technically fit in a large SUV but packing for any kind of trip would be impossible.
When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?
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Haha, no. There are 8 people in my family, we could technically fit in a large SUV but packing for any kind of trip would be impossible.
In a First, Wind and Solar Generated More Power Than Coal in U.S.
Wind and solar produced more U.S. power than coal during the first five months of this year, as several coal plants closed and gas prices dropped
100% agree. Nuclear has a real role in the future of energy production. I hope that new Nuclear projects can be started in the near future, but at the moment new nuclear is pretty much dead.
The US is getting its first new nuclear reactor in 40 years
It's been a long time — and a price tag of $30 billion — but the first US nuclear reactor will go online soon in Georgia.
grist.org
To the 50% who said “never”, curious as to why?
Is it technology concerns? Charging infrastructure? Or do you really not care about the damage being done from using fossil fuels?
Is it technology concerns? Charging infrastructure? Or do you really not care about the damage being done from using fossil fuels?
For me, it’s charging infrastructure, time to charge, and range. If you don’t live in a high-population area of the country, the infrastructure is either very minimal or even nonexistent right now. It is very possible to drive electric with no problems in large metropolitan areas or along corridors with lots of people, it is another thing when there is no infrastructure to support you driving there currently.
Also FWIW, the car I currently drive averages 39 MPG, I have chosen a small, fuel-efficient car both to reduce gas cost as well as environmental impact. Would never drive a big gas truck or SUV, we have way too many people driving these on the roads currently.
I mean there are awful things being done to produce ev vehicles too. The human rights issues from children labor to mass murder and rape to keep these mines working are frightening but doesn't seem to be as trendy as going after the targets you mention.I mean this sincerely I think you're grossly overstating this. It's at best a push, environmentally with ICE vehicles.
For the record my top two reasons for wanting them is price of operation and I want to stop relying on foreign entities for our energy that I find to be abhorrent, such as Russia and OPEC countries.
The Environmental Impact of Battery Production for EVs
While the principle of lower emissions behind electric vehicles is commendable, the environmental impact of battery production is still up for debate.earth.org
I voted 10+ years because we are buying a new car this year and plan on doing some long distance driving (like a relaxed version of the Iron Butt four corners motorcycle tour) and I don’t think fully electric is quite there yet. We keep our cars longer than 10 years so hopefully won’t be in the market again for quite a while. If I still drove to work I would lean towards getting a full EV as a 2nd car but we will just keep our 2004 Prius for short trips around town.
Perhaps they are planning to die in the next decade? Or perhaps they don't understand that they're going to have a similar issue with gas stations in the future that they're complaining about for charging stations now. Once this transition happens, gas pumps are going to become more and more scarce until you get to the point of having to plan a trip based on their availability.
I mean this sincerely I think you're grossly overstating this. It's at best a push, environmentally with ICE vehicles.
For the record my top two reasons for wanting them is price of operation and I want to stop relying on foreign entities for our energy that I find to be abhorrent, such as Russia and OPEC countries.
The Environmental Impact of Battery Production for EVs
While the principle of lower emissions behind electric vehicles is commendable, the environmental impact of battery production is still up for debate.
These cars run on lithium batteries. The US has a grand total of 1 lithium mine in its borders so we are still going to rely on foreign entities for our vehicles.
Also, child labor in the DRC, as far as getting cobalt is concerned, is disgusting.
You are essentially trading one evil for another. The whole “it’s better for the environment” is a joke. Everything has a price on environmental issues, we just haven’t fully understood the ramifications of mining for these battery resources yet. All it is, in my opinion, is another avenue for these companies to sell vehicles. If this wouldn’t be profitable for the industry, it wouldn’t be getting pushed.
Roughly 95% of the components that make up a lithium battery can be recycled.
www.energy-storage.news
Redwood Materials secures US$2 billion federal loan for lithium-ion recycling plant in Nevada
Redwood Materials will get a US$2 billion loan from the DOE Loan Programs Office for its closed loop lithium-ion materials plant in Nevada.
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It’s not though. Lifecycle analysis measures the overall impact from mining of battery materials to production to driving and fuel use. I linked several third party analyses to show that EVs definitively reduce emissions, even with battery production, by around 65%.
Are EVs a silver bullet? Of course not. But to say they aren’t better for the environment is not rooted in data, science, and facts.
The problem with studies and projections is that they all look good, until they don’t. Then the excuse when things go south is “we only used the data we had at the time”. I’m not disputing what the studies say, but I am highly doubting the studies look as good in 10 years. But at that point, everyone will have switched over and there is nothing that can be done to go back.
I am extremely skeptical of companies and government. They are hardly ever looking out for the general public as they try to make it seem. The bottom line and control is what they are looking for.
This screams of someone who believes conspiracy theories. Are you saying you don’t believe data and science? LCA is a non-partisan, non-government, third party consistent way to measure the environmental impacts of something.
We are using the “data we had at time time” and comparing it to the data we have for ICE/fossil fuels. And EVs are significantly better when it comes to lifecycle emissions.
If you really want to ignore data, facts, and science, there is nothing anyone can say to you that’s going to make a difference.
Every house and most apartments already have an EV “gas station”.
Trying to get EV home owners back in gas only cars after an ev will be like trying to get someone to rewind vhs tapes and take the to blockbuster in 2023.
I'm guessing I've said this before but electric vehicles don't work for everybody. My wife drives a Mach E. I have an F150. If I want to go to Ames it's about 200 miles. If its winter I'm taking the truck because the 180-200 mile winter range isn't going to cut it in the Mach E if time charging matters to me. Right now when I make trips to Ames? Mach E all the way. Eat lunch at El Azteca and in that half hour I can go from 10% battery to 80% battery (240 miles) for roughly $8-9.
If you do a lot of towing long distance electric doesn't make sense right now. I towed my mower yesterday and my mileage fell 35% or so. The same thing happens with an EV truck.
Cost to drive to Ames and back for us:
400 miles / 3 mi/kwh = 133 kwh * $.1/kwh = $13
400 miles / 22 mpg = 18 gallons * $4 = $72
Ford getting access to the Supercharger network however is absolutely a game changer.
If you do a lot of towing long distance electric doesn't make sense right now. I towed my mower yesterday and my mileage fell 35% or so. The same thing happens with an EV truck.
Cost to drive to Ames and back for us:
400 miles / 3 mi/kwh = 133 kwh * $.1/kwh = $13
400 miles / 22 mpg = 18 gallons * $4 = $72
Ford getting access to the Supercharger network however is absolutely a game changer.