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Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Nolaeer said:
There is a very real risk, as I stated earlier in the thread, to sign some crappy 6 year GOR if you are a 4 corner school.

in 6 years, the ACC may(probably will) unravel. The buyout will be manageable enough for the BIG to risk it to grab UNC and UVA. SEC grabs clemson/fsu. Oregon and wash may be off to the BIG.

so then the big 12 might add a 4-corner school, or they might not. There could be miami, nc state, g tech, louisville, pitt, VT as competition.

maybe colo and az are taken by big 12 but utah and arz state are not.
where can utah and arz state go then?
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Can the Pac 10 schools really risk waiting? That is one question. If they wait until the next round 6-10 years, then it the pool of available teams grows. For schools like Washington and Oregon, can they compete for a spot against FSU, Miami UNC etc. With that can AZ, UC etc compete for a spot in the Big 12 if the ACC does fall apart at that time, and the mid value teams there become available?

Waiting risks them losing the chance to move in the future. But do they have the foresight or belief that that could happen. Not sure.

I think most in the Pac believe the spot in the Big 12 will always be available, and even with the ACC falling apart they will still have a spot, along with the leftovers of the ACC after the Big10 and SEC pick who they want.
But I dont know if Wash and Ore have the value to compete with the top choices for the Big 10 in the ACC, and may be left out again if that day comes.
 
nfrine said:
ToE wanted protected rival status for all the current B1G West...
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They knew they could only get 3, Minney and Wisco are pretty historical border rivals. Nebby is a newer rival. Will be interesting to see what Fickell gets going at Wisco, I think he could turn them into a serious power and that could mean a protected a**-kicking every year.
 
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HouClone said:
Hopefully to the Mountain West.

ASU, at least from the ASU AD, doesn't look like they have any inclination to move to the Big 12.

Utah fans are justifying the Pac media rights delay as "right on schedule" and have been bashing the Big 12. A Utah "insider" has got their fans fired up that he has a source say $33 million per school for the new media deal.

One rumor that has floated around the Utah forum is that Fox will be in play with the Pac but with the Pac providing their Pac Network distribution and announcers. The Pac Network provided about $11.3 million per school in revenue - but $8 million in expenses for $3.3 million profit. And that is how the Pac may PR this media deal, "we'll beat the Big 12's number", by not factoring in Pac Network expenses if it is used. Canzano and Mandel didn't even mention the Pac Network expenses last week when touting last year's Pac media revenue.
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I have seen where the last few years, the Pac net has actually lost money. They started out making about what you posted here, but I think it has lost money since about Covid or the year before.

Not sure where I read that, but I saw it somewhere. They may have rebounded a bit since I saw that a year or so ago.
 
cycloneML said:
Why this?

www.cjonline.com

Memphis president, AD react to latest Big 12 expansion, realignment reports

Big 12 officials, including commissioner Brett Yormark, reportedly recently visited Memphis as it continues to prepare for potential expansion.
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I would say the Memphis officials know that this is the last best chance to get into a P5 conference, and they are trying to pull what Houston did, and force the B12 to sign them up. The B12 commish is too smart to fall into that trap. Memphis brings nothing that the league doesn't already have, and will be there to fill in after the last right of expansion is over if needed.

The question no one knows is just how many teams the B10 and SEC end up with, is that number 20, 22 or 24. If its 24 that would allow them to take Oregon, Washington, UNC, UVA, and a couple of other schools, but if only 20, then it gets tight. I still think the B10 wants the ACC schools more than Washington and Oregon, they would take them, but not if it costs them equal schools from the ACC.
This should allow the B12 to pick and choose what is left over, from both the P12 and ACC. If schools like Gonzaga and UConn want to come in as BB playing schools with a particle share, welcome them in, but neither one as a fulltime member with an equal share.
 
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cycloneML said:
Why this?

www.cjonline.com

Memphis president, AD react to latest Big 12 expansion, realignment reports

Big 12 officials, including commissioner Brett Yormark, reportedly recently visited Memphis as it continues to prepare for potential expansion.
www.cjonline.com
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I would prefer Memphis over UConn as more regional, strong enough basketball brand and fans, and better football team. But I don't want to add them now. Let's have their brand build up by dominating the AAC and making the CFP playoffs and maybe making noise in it. Then, they would be more attractive in 2030.
 
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Gonzo said:
I guess I'm a little surprised USC didn't already have a "game-changer" state-of-the-art football performance center.
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Shouldn’t be a surprise when you look back at their rankings over the past 15 years. Great by Iowa/ISU standards, definitely not great by supposed “blue blood” standards.

They have most certainly fallen behind during that span during what’s been a facilities boom for a bunch of schools.
 
I feel the Big12 realignment balloon has lost its air. That there will be no movement from the PAC to our league.

What do you guys think. Is all of this hot air or are we in for a surprise this summer?
 
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helechopper said:
I feel the Big12 realignment balloon has lost its air. That there will be no movement from the PAC to our league.

What do you guys think. Is all of this hot air or are we in for a surprise this summer?
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I've never been convinced that the money gap would be enough to pull any Pac schools, and I'm still not. I think the B12 stays as is. The Pac could stay at 10 for now or promote a couple schools to get back to 12, not really sure what I would bet on there, nor do I really care.
 
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helechopper said:
I feel the Big12 realignment balloon has lost its air. That there will be no movement from the PAC to our league.

What do you guys think. Is all of this hot air or are we in for a surprise this summer?
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Clearly they all want to stay in the PAC 12 but nobody knows anything until the TV numbers come in. I guess given the clear desire to stay in the PAC 12 by all of their schools I don't think anything is going to happen, but who the hell knows. It's impossible to know anything with all of the disinformation being thrown around, and really at the end of the day only a very select few people have any inkling what the final offer on their TV rights will be. If it's anywhere close to the Big 12 no one is leaving.
 
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helechopper said:
I feel the Big12 realignment balloon has lost its air. That there will be no movement from the PAC to our league.

What do you guys think. Is all of this hot air or are we in for a surprise this summer?
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I can see Colorado maaaaybe leaving. That $54M shortfall since moving west is pretty stark. Also, supposedly Deion prefers the B12. But in reality, I would bet nobody leaves and the PAC adds a couple G5s.
 
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aeroclone said:
I've never been convinced that the money gap would be enough to pull any Pac schools, and I'm still not. I think the B12 stays as is. The Pac could stay at 10 for now or promote a couple schools to get back to 12, not really sure what I would bet on there, nor do I really care.
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There’s clearly a gap because they still haven’t signed a deal. They started negotiating before the Big12 did and ours has been done quite awhile.
 
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