When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?
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Why is it a status symbol to pay $1.30 for 90% renewable fuel instead of $5.50 for gas?
A Bolt EUV is a status symbol? You’re thinking of a fully loaded full size SUV to take a kid to soccer.
$1.30 vs $5.50 sounds great if you don't factor in the environmental impact of the battery powering that Rube Goldberg EV contraption
The battery issues need to be resolved before I pay the high initial upfront cost of new. I would buy a used model capable of an update with a superior replacement battery when they become available. It would be a secondary vehicle for local short trips and overnight home charging. The problems of charging on longer overnight road trips need to disappear before I consider a new EV: limited distance between recharge, limited availability of charging stations and length of time to recharge. The Motel chains that install charging stations will be winners.
We have two cars. For the 3 times a year we drive over 250+ miles, we'll probably take my Kia, which is a more comfortable highway cruiser anyway. Or if for some reason we don't use that method, we'll stop for lunch and charge. When I buy cars, I usually buy for the 99% use case not the 1%. For other people that drive 250+ miles a lot over the course of a year, yeah maybe stick with an ICE vehicle.
I mean this sincerely I think you're grossly overstating this. It's at best a push, environmentally with ICE vehicles.
For the record my top two reasons for wanting them is price of operation and I want to stop relying on foreign entities for our energy that I find to be abhorrent, such as Russia and OPEC countries.
The Environmental Impact of Battery Production for EVs
While the principle of lower emissions behind electric vehicles is commendable, the environmental impact of battery production is still up for debate.
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So in Toyotas opinion its going to be a while before a whole bunch of us are driving BEV.
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I have little doubt that it's going to take a long time. The cell phone was introduced in the 70's and there are still people that insist on a LAN line in their home.So in Toyotas opinion its going to be a while before a whole bunch of us are driving BEV.
This Is Why Toyota Isn't Rushing To Sell You An Electric Vehicle - Jalopnik
Toyota’s hybrid models have been extremely successful, so you would think the automaker would be quick to embrace full electrification like some of its competitors. However, the automaker seems to be taking a somewhat controversial approach to EVs, and a leaked dealer document about the brand’s...
So, according to Toyota, the best thing we can do, for us and the environment, is buy a hybrid now. With China being the new OPEC with the needed elements coming from them, wonder if the leadership will crack down on them and squash memos like this.So in Toyotas opinion its going to be a while before a whole bunch of us are driving BEV.
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I probably never will since I take a lot of road trips. I can't even get to my summer home on one charge.
What battery issues are you referencing?
Longer road trips are plenty doable with Tesla's Supercharger network. 300+ miles between charges and Superchargers along all the major routes that take less than 30 minutes to get you the charge you need.
But....I'd never try to road trip with an EV other than a Tesla. The other EV charging networks have a long way to go.
Yes, because ICE cars have no 'environmental impact' in production or oil usage.
I mean this sincerely I think you're grossly overstating this. It's at best a push, environmentally with ICE vehicles.
For the record my top two reasons for wanting them is price of operation and I want to stop relying on foreign entities for our energy that I find to be abhorrent, such as Russia and OPEC countries.
The Environmental Impact of Battery Production for EVs
While the principle of lower emissions behind electric vehicles is commendable, the environmental impact of battery production is still up for debate.
Where do you think the batteries come from? And before you say they're assembled in the US, where do the battery components come from? I'll give you a 2 word hint: "China" and "coal-powered".
Stumbled on to classic Motorweek on the YouTube.
The 1982 Pontiac 1000.
0-60 in THIRTY seconds, but at least you average 25 MPG.
Suck on that, Tesla!
The 1982 Pontiac 1000.
0-60 in THIRTY seconds, but at least you average 25 MPG.
Suck on that, Tesla!
I didn't say they have no environmental impact. I said EV's sound great if you don't factor in the environmental cost of their batteries.Yes, because ICE cars have no 'environmental impact' in production or oil usage.
And that's not even mentioning the cost of creating more electricity to charge them
They still sound great even when you factor that in, because every type of energy production creates waste. I find the waste created by EV's to be better.
No offense but I don't consider China to be in the same realm as Russia and the OPEC nations. You might but we differ there.
And more efficient. The biggest gain will be when(if) we get to mostly renewable energy sources that are running our factories where all these products are getting built (including and especially batteries).
Isn’t some of that for a long term owner leveled out with lack of a transmission and just much simpler engine with far less maintenance in lots of ways? In the 90s a reason GM fought so hard to kill their own EV1 was that they’d lose out on their maintenance industry.
I think back on all the costs I’ve hat w cat converters and now people are stealing them even.