Wut?I'll take the guy who's back injury and mental health struggles lead to his dismissal over a money sellout any day of the week.
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Wut?I'll take the guy who's back injury and mental health struggles lead to his dismissal over a money sellout any day of the week.
I'll still cheer for Grill, Hunter can get lost.Wut?
Why would you cheer for someone who broke rules and got booted? That's weird.I'll still cheer for Grill, Hunter can get lost.
Why would you cheer for someone who broke rules and got booted? That's weird.
You do realize you don't have to cheer or hate anyone? You can just say you don't care.
No it's not, I still think Grill is a good kid, things just unraveled at the end.Why would you cheer for someone who broke rules and got booted? That's weird.
I'm still waiting on the evidence that he "trashed the program"No it's not, I still think Grill is a good kid, things just unraveled at the end.
On the other hand Hunter is a punk looking for a payday then trashes the program.
Huge difference, one wanted to be here, one didn't.
Booted from team (while being a borderline dirty player) after already transferring from a previous ISU team= good kid.No it's not, I still think Grill is a good kid, things just unraveled at the end.
On the other hand Hunter is a punk looking for a payday then trashes the program.
Huge difference, one wanted to be here, one didn't.
From rumors, didn't Caleb "trash the program" as well?I'm still waiting on the evidence that he "trashed the program"
I think his thinking here is...Why would you cheer for someone who broke rules and got booted? That's weird.
You do realize you don't have to cheer or hate anyone? You can just say you don't care.
Caleb "got rid of ISU" once already though, so I don't get it. His mom at the time went on Twitter to try and give a reason/diffuse it.I think his thinking here is...
It was Iowa State's choice to get rid of a player
Vs
A player's choice to get rid of ISU.
Scorn ISU and you won't be cheered for wherever you end up..
Personally, I don't care.
From rumors, didn't Caleb "trash the program" as well?
Goes back to my example of Cyclone fans being in a relationship and getting dumped by Hunter vs dumping Grill. Some people can't get over itI think his thinking here is...
It was Iowa State's choice to get rid of a player
Vs
A player's choice to get rid of ISU.
Scorn ISU and you won't be cheered for wherever you end up..
Personally, I don't care.
Well you're not going to get a Christmas card from Lucca Staiger.I think I'd prefer if people left during the offseason regardless of their reasons rather than getting kicked off the team in March, maybe just me though.
Agreed, although I think I see more trashing of Hunter going on. Hell, people were pissed at an (photoshop by the way) "action" that Hunter did.I dislike that it seems like it takes trashing Grill to reach a realistic comparison of the 2 situations. I don't hate Grill. I don't hate Hunter. Both did good things for ISU. Neither is a Cyclone. I won't be cheering for, or against, either in basketball, unless they are up against ISU, in which case I'll be against whatever team they are on. I hope both go on to successful lives and understand that their time as a Cyclone contributed to their success.
We still don't know what Grill did or said to TJ either. Maybe that will be de-classified in 2050 and we'll finally figure out the truth.I'm still waiting on the evidence that he "trashed the program"