There used to be a B8 preseason tournament. It was great. This one is a money grab. It benefits KC and the conference coffers, plus ESPN. Nothing else. Like the football championship in that way.
Does the B12 Tournament matter?
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The seeds aren’t set but there are obviously teams that know they’re in the tournament. JFC
My comments were based on King McClure's like-observations this morning.
CycloneErik
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What? College sports as a money grab? That's unpossible.
He also only had 7 Baylor fans show up to his games when he was in it. Great fanbase!
Boohoo.
Depends on what we mean by 'matters'.
It's fun to watch along with other tournaments as it interjects that excitement into March but for the most part it's generally meaningless unless NCAA tourney entry depends on how well a team does.
But it's @surly so all of us good folks at CF need to keep our expectations low and give them some extra help to bring this back to the topic they started which is the conference tournament.
Here's my contribution to the cause:
- ISU (5) has more B12 tourney championships than KSU (0), Texas (1), Ok St (2), Baylor (0), WV (0), TTech (0), and TCU (0) combined
- Missouri (2) hasn't been part of the conference for over a decade, but still has more B12 tourney championships than KSU (0)
We better stop caring about the conference challenges in December as well as our Maui invitational coming up. Damn money grabs.
Sounds like pre-emptive coping with a first-round loss. Of course it matters, what a dumb take
This is the same as saying "didn't want him anyway" when missing on a recruit
Also, basing this whole opinion on something King McClure said on a radio show is something. Baylor has never had success in the B12 tourney (K-State either, what a coincidence). He is a terrible commentator anyway.
Surly gonna Surly!
This is the same as saying "didn't want him anyway" when missing on a recruit
Also, basing this whole opinion on something King McClure said on a radio show is something. Baylor has never had success in the B12 tourney (K-State either, what a coincidence). He is a terrible commentator anyway.
Surly gonna Surly!
They have been playing conference tournaments for almost 50 years. These aren't made-for-TV events with no history or passion.
Heck yes it matters. It's a Big 12 Championship and an AUTOMTIC bid to the national tournament. Does it matter if you don't win it? No. Not unless that is your only path to the national tournament.
Somehow King McClure's opinion on this matters more to me than some random poster from Oskaloosa or Ft. Madison. As does Bob Knight's.
Indiana Coach Bob Knight says the Big Ten should resist a postseason basketball tournament because it would be bad for fans and weaken schedules. LATimes
Do you feel better now? Also I’m not a big believer in conference tournament success limiting NCAA tournament success. Would I rather go farther in the NCAAs? Of course. The years we’ve won the Big 12 tournament we’ve also gone to the Elite 8 and sweet 16 (one year Niang broke his foot, maybe could have gone farther). One year we won the conference tournament and lost to UAB. That team was on shaky ground at the end though. Don’t think if we would have lost in KC that that would have changed anything.
So TCU was the true Big 12 Champ in football?
15-16 : L in Big 12 semis , L in NCAA 1st rd
16-17 : L in Big 12 1st rd, S16
17-18 : L in Big 12 1st rd, L in NCAA 2nd rd
18-19 : L in Big 12 1st rd, L in NCAA 2nd rd
It’s almost as if his experience in KC wasn’t the best..
It's an exhibition for the fans at this point. Already played everyone twice and seeds for NCAA are mostly set. Fans, maybe more so on the WBB side, think the tournament means way more than it does for NCAA seeding. I think you get a bit more drama and interest in bigger leagues where the top teams have not necessarily met twice in regular season.
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