WBB: General All-NCAA Thread - Not Team Cyclones Stuff

[KidSilverhair]

That Ohio State player must have the strength of Andre the Giant to send Clark flying through the air with just the slight push of the side of her hand.

Earlier in the game I saw one of the Iowa players drive contested into the lane, pause, forcefully body the OSU defender out of the way to get the bucket, and instead of the obvious offensive foul got a foul called on the defender … then on the very next possession at the opposite end, the very same Iowa player clearly fouled a Buckeye on a layup attempt and then looked wide-eyed at the ref, hands upturned, absolutely befuddled that she could possibly have been whistled for a violation. I know that stuff happens in every game all the time, men and women, but it seems like a standard for Iowa basketball for some reason.

 

[jctisu]

Well I hate to say it but Iowa deserves it more than them. They are playing good ball right now, but a good defensive team will beat them. IMO.

Strong disagree. It’s not about the last two weeks. Indianas entire season is better than Iowa’s season.

 

[NWICY]

Strong disagree. It’s not about the last two weeks. Indianas entire season is better than Iowa’s season.

I won't argue too much but they beat Indiana head to head I thought but could be wrong and won their tourney. If those 2 ideas are right I'll stand by my statement.

Edit looks like they split during the season

 

[jctisu]

I won't argue too much but they beat Indiana head to head I thought but could be wrong and won their tourney. If those 2 ideas are right I'll stand by my statement.

They split the regular season meetings. Indiana won the Big Ten regular season title and lost on a buzzer beater in Iowa City. They still finished two games better in the loss column than Iowa despite the two losses down the stretch. The entire season counts

 

[Cyclad]

Ay



Any chance they end up a 1 seed?

Lots of good arguments below say no. I think they will. Clark is the face of women’s basketball in the country. She is the best player in the game. Great for WBB that she leads her team as far as possible. B10 is tough. Winning the tourney in a blowout is a big deal. I think they get the fourth #1 seed.

 

[CRcyclone6]

Clark viciously assaulted by Ohio State today:

Nice flop. Still in the game up 30 pts ?

 

[kcdc4isu]

Nice flop. Still in the game up 30 pts ?

She should work on her flops because this is not the last time people will be physical with her, Also watch how she throws elbows anytime someone gets close to her.

 

[BoxsterCy]

I won't argue too much but they beat Indiana head to head I thought but could be wrong and won their tourney. If those 2 ideas are right I'll stand by my statement.

Edit looks like they split during the season

In Iowa's case they beat four ranked teams in their final five games, pretty much peaking again late like they did last year till they clunked versus Creighton. In Indiana's case they have been good all year. Head to head on a neutral court it's a pick'em IMHO. Iowa should move back up to a #2 seed, they had fallen to the first #3 after their clunker at College Park but came back crazy hot since than. The tourney loss doesn't really hurt Indiana in this year of weak #1's.

 

[BoxsterCy]

Nice flop. Still in the game up 30 pts ?

Cyclones have a weird obsession with this considering our own starters minutes. Ryan was in our game Saturday when we were up by 30 midway through the 4th quarter and didn't sub out till under five minutes left. I'd be more concerned than Iowa if we made the final Sunday after playing consecutive days, had to go home to Ames and than road trip Monday or Tuesday somewhere to play the following Friday/Saturday.

Iowa doesn't play again till the first round on March 17th or 18th so they really don't need "rest". I won't like it if we had to sit around without playing for 12-13 days.

 

[theshadow]

Cyclones have a weird obsession with this considering our own starters minutes.

The issue is when players are clearly being left in just to pad stats. We saw it for years with Kim, and Lisa is doing the same thing.

 

[undersized_post]

Ohio State had come back from a 24 point margin the day prior. Considering that, Iowa undoubtably made the right decision to keep the rotation tight until midway through the fourth. Clark still only played 33min which is less than her season average as well as less than Joens, Ryan, and Donarski's averages, for context.

Usually folks talk about stat padding in relation to points, but Clark only attempted 1 shot in the entire fourth quarter. So, is she not supposed to grab the ball if it bounces to her off the rim, because rebounding in that situation is "stat padding"? Is she not supposed to pass the ball to an open teammate in scoring position because it's selfish for her to get an assist? Like... ?

 

[CRcyclone6]

Can you imagine if Boston gets player of the year?

 

[jctisu]

Can you imagine if Boston gets player of the year?

I would give it to Clark because what she does is stuff not seen in the women’s game. But Boston is the best all-around player in women’s college basketball and it’s really not close. Her offense is great but it’s her defense and presence that put her to another level. Clark defensively is nothing special.

 

[BoxsterCy]

Ohio State had come back from a 24 point margin the day prior. Considering that, Iowa undoubtably made the right decision to keep the rotation tight until midway through the fourth. Clark still only played 33min which is less than her season average as well as less than Joens, Ryan, and Donarski's averages, for context.

Usually folks talk about stat padding in relation to points, but Clark only attempted 1 shot in the entire fourth quarter. So, is she not supposed to grab the ball if it bounces to her off the rim, because rebounding in that situation is "stat padding"? Is she not supposed to pass the ball to an open teammate in scoring position because it's selfish for her to get an assist? Like... ?

Clark played 33 minutes Sunday on the ESPN2 national game that was getting a lot of attention. She could have sat out the full 4th and Iowa would have still won but she's the most popular WBB player in the country and casual fans had tuned in to see her play. You had a ton of Hawk fans at Target Center that also came to see her play. That was as much for the viewing audience as for her. The entertainment factor is real. I didn't catch this game but if I was a nation fan just tuning in I'd have wanted to see a triple double.

All of this made me look and Clark is playing 2 minutes a game less than last year. I guess that is partly due to having transfer Molly Davis available. Also seems Bluder looks to give Clark a minute or so here and there during the heat of the game to. There were times where Clark was left in to chase a triple double last year but other times there just wasn't another PG, sort of like ISU and Ryan right now (and last year to).

 

[BoxsterCy]

The polls sure went crazy. Lots of voter overaction.

• Iowa jumped five to #2, which is a bit much even with their winning four games in two weeks over ranked teams. I might have had them at #5 or so.
• ISU is first out at #26
• Oklahoma and Texas clocking at #14 and #15, other than ISU no other Big 12 even getting votes. Not getting how/why Sooners would be in front of Texas. They've lost to Texas twice by 20 points.
• LSU and Utah got hammered down five spots.

 

[Cyclad]

The polls sure went crazy. Lots of voter overaction.

• Iowa jumped five to #2, which is a bit much even with their winning four games in two weeks over ranked teams. I might have had them at #5 or so.
• ISU is first out at #26
• Oklahoma and Texas clocking at #14 and #15, other than ISU no other Big 12 even getting votes. Not getting how/why Sooners would be in front of Texas. They've lost to Texas twice by 20 points.
• LSU and Utah got hammered down five spots.

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Watching WCC men’s tourney.
Huge Catlain Clark commercial. ESPN has her as the best player by far. She is.

 

[casey1973]

Watching WCC men’s tourney.
Huge Catlain Clark commercial. ESPN has her as the best player by far. She is.

Talented, but a bit of a dirty player and whiner as well. I just don't enjoy watching her antics I guess.

 

[jctisu]

Watching WCC men’s tourney.
Huge Catlain Clark commercial. ESPN has her as the best player by far. She is.

By far is just not even true. Boston from South Carolina actually plays defense and is the best all-around player in the country.

 

[acoustimac]

My step son and his buddy are hawk fans. Thy claim Clark is cocky and confident versus being a whiner. I suppose that is the homer viewpoint. I agree that she is one of the most gifted players I’ve seen in a long time, but the whining and complaining just turn me off. If I had to choose between her, Buekers, Boston, Joens etc to build a team around…she wouldn’t make my top 3-4. That being said…if she had committed to ISU I firmly believe Coach wouldn’t tolerate her antics. That alone would elevate her on my list.

 

[Junejax]

Boston is my first pick for a college dream team. A healthy Bueckers is PG1 for USA basketball going forward. But I could watch a highlight reel of Clark passing the ball all day long.