Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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About as stupid as saying Bowen Born or A J Green will play as Iowa State. Give a rest.
Right now Oregon State and Washington State are in the worst shape. In the future I think you correctly identify Wake and BC.
There was a time Kansas State and Iowa State were viewed to be exactly right where Oregon State and Washington State are. Seems like we dodged our worst case danger zone but it also just feels like eventually somebody is going to get screwed out of big time football. The last time someone truly got demoted it was Cincy, UConn and USF being demoted out of Power 5 and Idaho being demoted out of FBS. But none of those programs were like KState and Iowa State with a century plus of football in a top tier league. I feel like BC has a lot of football history and could be the first one that really gets screwed if ACC totally crumbles, I know nothing of Wake Forest football, I'm guessing they have lack of history like ISU but also a lack of passionate football fans. There's definitely some history with Oregon St and WSU even just with their in state rivalry games.
Why he’s right, SDSU won’t happen because you actually have a smart commish now.
Top team and top g5 if they are in the top 20 auto bid. fill in the rest with #2 and 3s. Crowning the champ would be just like we do for regular season basketball. Team with best record is champ.
BIG SEC ACC B12 P12 G5 Michigan Georgia Clemson TCU USC Tulane Ohio St Alabama KSU Utah Penn St Tennessee
Why is TCU only 5 seed in this hypothetical if they were ranked 3rd heading into playoff? Is there a rule top 4 have to be a conf champ? Kind of silly given the Pac and ACC were not harder than the B12 to become a champion. Clemson was only ranked 7th and somehow they jump up to #3?
The bye is a pretty big advantage...even though that 3 spot playing Ohio State in first game is a rough draw.
After the ACC thing gets figured out I mean. CFP games would replace/ outdraw CCGs I’m thinking.
It's possible the 2 or 4 remaining Pac schools will keep Pac name and merge with MWC, but it'll be the MWC conference. The hilarious thing will be the old guys at the Rose Bowl will have to decide if they cherish the Pac conference anymore.
It won't be like B12 surviving and changing all these times and still being something at least somewhat similar.
It would have been fantastic as a fan when there were 6 major conferences if the CCGs were just round 1 of an 8 team playoff and produced the six auto bids. Effectively it's a 16 team bracket in terms of how many get a shot at a title.
Then you have two open spots for a non power conference team or a really amazing team that didn't win its title game but was 12-1 or 11-2 or something. Obviously ND has their in with those two spots. The fact that the SEC/B12 were way better than Big East back then is balanced out with those two at large spots too.
An 8 team playoff (but really a 16 team style bracket including CCGs) only adding 3 total games compared to what teams played after a CCG and bowl game.
The CCGs would have gotten MASSIVE, drastically bigger and more passionate than what they have been.
Yep agreed the CFP would out draw but those CCG are big for the networks. After the ACC gets resolved is a decade away and anything is possible that far out.
Not sure how much incentive OU/UT had getting out of the Big12 early once 12 team playoff stalled. If you look back at the timeline:
- June 2021 steering group comprised of Thompson (MWC), Bowlsby, Sankey and Swarbrick propose 12 team playoff.
- OU/UT announced they were leaving Big12 in July 2021
- Fall 2021 the 12 team playoff runs into roadblock
- Dec 2022 the 12 team playoff gets approval and will start 2024/25 season
- Feb 2023 OU/UT announce they are leaving Big12 early, starting with 2024 season.
Texas trended up slightly this year but the idea that they needed to concern themselves with a 4 or 12 team playoff for the past decade is pretty enjoyable to laugh about. For OU it made sense for them to factor that into short term decision making.
I can see the SEC deserving even 4-5 of these 12 spots but I'll be surprised if Texas is top 3 in that conference right away or a 4th/5th best team that has a dominant enough year to get a bid. Their problem isn't money, they already had a full decade where they made more money than any other program every season. The middle/bottom of the SEC is sometimes overrated but they are going to lose more games vs that top half than they did in the Big 12 on an average year.
Keep in mind you could be talking about only 3-4 CCGs at that point. OTOH, you have to worry about playing 8 first round CFP games going up against the 800# gorilla that is the NFL.
Yep, also if expansion continues and the conferences go to 20 all the more reason for a championship game
I disagree. I’m not sure what the point would be.
Pitt won the ACC in Football two years ago and are going to win it in MBB this year.50 years ago almost. Majors gave out 65 to 70 scholarships in his first recruiting class at Pitt. Things changed.
Umm to determine the conference champion? When you have that many teams you’re going to have an unbalanced schedule. Just like if Iowa went undefeated in the west you would want them to have to play a championship game because they played no one in the west. Beat two records play in the championship game, winner is the champion. It’s what the big ten will do in 2024 and it just makes sense
With that many teams and unbalanced schedules, even a championship game doesn't really do a great job of determining that champion.