I'm referring to politics. I don't want to discuss it in here either which is why I danced around it.
Cheap donors is a big problem. Midwestern frugality just doesn't lend itself to dumping a bunch of money into entertainment.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Cheap donors is a big problem. Midwestern frugality just doesn't lend itself to dumping a bunch of money into entertainment.
That list is very big ten heavy. Any one who doesn't have ND as the most valuable FB team out there is smoking dope. Its the only team that can negotiate their own TV deal and have some poor teams that they play.
Agree/Disagree. They are the only school in a position to negotiate their own TV deal. Alabama, tOSU, Michigan could also do it if they were in the same position as ND.
I came up with something VERY similar. I think you have Oklahoma on there twice (OkSt isn't getting in). And I would put UNC in the "maybe" pile. The top 20 is pretty easy; but the next 4 there are probably 6-10 possibles that are not very differentiated.
Hopefully they will just go with 20, and then we can have COLLEGE football back with about 50 teams nationwide. Although in 10 years I will be 60 and probably won't gaf anymore.
Whoops, Yeah I accidentally dropped either oklahoma or Oregon in there twice. I said two opening and with the double it shows 23 so the teams work if you just delete my double up. I went by conference and went with, okay, lets say they are determined to have 24, who are the tops. I know throwing teams like Maryland and Mizzou in there as maybes sounds wild, but they have much larger populations and if they start to establish themselves it helps, and we know the college sports still has politics involved, so you could see a little of that.
Yeah it is, but it is even more SEC heavy. But that's where the interest is, fans and television, and thus money.
ND is a big fish. Would be interesting to see what would shake out if they turned down a SuperLeague, wanted to be traditional/proud and stayed in the "college" football level.
I would assume a super league would involve direct pay to play, and I would also think it would be like a conference membership so ND would no longer be an independent. It may then also be possible that the super league doesn't play teams outside the super league. I can see ND turning down membership as a result of things like that. They really value their independence and traditional rivalries. I also get the impression they aren't too interested in paying players, even if they have the financial backing to really benefit from it. ND loves tradition.
No way Iowa makes the cut at 24.
At 32 they are probably in, but could be close depending on politics that will almost certainly happen.
At 48 we are in.
Any more than that and there is no point really except to completely restructure NCAA/P5 etc.
“Very real possibility”
Assuming the above relates to noise regarding Oregon and Washington thinking they can get into the B1G once the commissioner situation is set there.
Assuming the above relates to noise regarding Oregon and Washington thinking they can get into the B1G once the commissioner situation is set there.
I guess I just don’t know that any of the 4 corners will leave before Oregon or Washington officially leave (unless the deal the conference brings to the table is materially below the Big 12 or there’s friction from unequal distribution/limited exposure).
Feel like only Oregon and Washington are willing to move before they see numbers on the table (which makes sense, they’d presumably be moving up)- not sure if any of the others are willing to do the same for what may be a lateral move (from their perspective obviously).
I agree but it’s easier for us to say that from the outside looking in. Seems like Utah and Colorado are especially reluctant to do so.
I’m also not convinced Utah or Colorado bring any added stability to the league until things shake out with the ACC. I think those two will have wandering eyes for the B1G even if they have to join the Big 12 this next round (that could obviously change if the ACC collapses and then those pieces get carved out and B1G and SEC fill up with their choices should those two be left out inevitably).
If I'm them, and the deal that includes Oregon and Washington (who have been clear that they're out at the first opportunity) isn't as good as a Big 12 deal would be, I'm looking at options. I definitely wouldn't want to sign a subpar deal that hinges upon programs that don't want to be there.
Signing a weaker deal to provide a stable future is one thing. Signing a weaker deal while retaining an unstable pact is quite another.
I agree with all of that, just saying I don’t think Arizona (or any of the 4 corners) will actually leave before they get to see a hard deal presented on the table.
Whereas I think Jason is implying the conference doesn’t have months to find a deal because there’s a very real possibility a school will leave before then. That’s why I’m thinking he’s referring to Oregon or Washington.
Wisconsin isn’t a fringe team in terms of TV. They are a really good TV draw, believe it or not. Well ahead of Clemson, UCLA, UNC, Miami, UW and Oregon. They are 100% in a top 24.