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Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

AuH2O said:
UVA and UNC seem like good Big 10 fits. I think the Big 10 just needs to leave the LA schools on an island. UW and Oregon are fine, but I think UNC and UVA are better fits.
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UW and Stanford are the best fits for b1g. Big added tv markets, academics, endowments, travel partners for uscla. And Stanford is more bait for ND to boot. Just makes a ton of sense.

I just think b1g doesnt want to 100% kill PAC. Waiting for implosion, and a couple to go big12, then will "rescue" those 2.
 
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CascadeClone said:
UW and Stanford are the best fits for b1g. Big added tv markets, academics, endowments, travel partners for uscla. And Stanford is more bait for ND to boot. Just makes a ton of sense.

I just think b1g doesnt want to 100% kill PAC. Waiting for implosion, and a couple to go big12, then will "rescue" those 2.
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Agree that B1G doesn’t really want to kill the PAC 12. But surely are willing to wound them so severely that they are relegated to the lowest of P5 Conferences. B1G can get whichever schoopls they want, whenever they want. PAC 12 gets their Champion in the CFP and no one else really has a chance. B1G wants 3 to 4 playoff spots. SEC 3 to 4. Big 12 would get champion and maybe one more. One for G5.
 
SolterraCyclone said:
I guess my point is whenever anyone talks about the ACC getting carved up, UVA is automatically lumped in with the Big 10. But I can tell you from first-hand experience, their passion for athletics at UVA, particularly football, is slightly higher than Cal and considerably lower than Washington and Oregon. Before Tony Bennett, no one cared about UVa basketball either.

It’s also worth noting Charlottesville is 2.5 hours from DC (Oregon is closer to highly populated Portland than that). And DC is very much a transplant town with allegiances to schools all over. UVa doesn’t bring the DC eyeballs anymore than CU brings Denver or KU brings Kansas City.

The threshold to bring additive value to the B1G is much higher than when Nebraska or Maryland or even USC/UCLA joined. I honestly don’t think UVa brings that value. ND and UNC definitely do.
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The difference between the Big10 and the SEC is they value different things. SEC values sports and marketability; Big10 values academics. That’s why schools like Virginia and Georgia tech have a shot at the Big10.

I believe when the Big10 was looking to expand east, Virginia and Georgia tech were rumored to be a top contender.
 
SCNCY said:
The difference between the Big10 and the SEC is they value different things. SEC values sports and marketability; Big10 values academics. That’s why schools like Virginia and Georgia tech have a shot at the Big10.

I believe when the Big10 was looking to expand east, Virginia and Georgia tech were rumored to be a top contender.
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Oh yes. No question. I wasn’t saying Virginia would go to the SEC. My point was if Washington and Oregon aren’t in the Big 10, Virginia is far from a shoe-in too.

Now that I look at it, I think it’s possible only 4 ACC schools land spots in the B1G (UNC, ND) or SEC (Clemson, FSU) at the end of the GOR. The ACC could potentially survive if that’s all they lose. But that’s in 10+ years, so who knows what things will be like then
 
Clonedogg said:
But fans in opposing venues show up (more) to play against them. I'm just saying its only going to get worse, once they leave.
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I could see a few novelty trips the first couple of years by other teams’ fans, but then it will really dry up.
 
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SCNCY said:
The difference between the Big10 and the SEC is they value different things. SEC values sports and marketability; Big10 values academics. That’s why schools like Virginia and Georgia tech have a shot at the Big10.

I believe when the Big10 was looking to expand east, Virginia and Georgia tech were rumored to be a top contender.
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Now explain Nebraska if they favor academics over athletics. They took a middle of the pack, at best, big 12 academic school with that one. I'm not sure about Maryland and Rutgers.
 
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BCClone said:
Now explain Nebraska if they favor academics over athletics. They took a middle of the pack, at best, big 12 academic school with that one. I'm not sure about Maryland and Rutgers.
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Rutgers and Maryland are both highly regarded academically.

I honestly think they took Nebraska because they were willing to agree to the lowest share of anybody else they were talking to at the time and checked off 'enough' boxes as a university. They obviously have to be the one that the Big Ten regrets the most.
 
1UNI2ISU said:
Rutgers and Maryland are both highly regarded academically.

I honestly think they took Nebraska because they were willing to agree to the lowest share of anybody else they were talking to at the time and checked off 'enough' boxes as a university. They obviously have to be the one that the Big Ten regrets the most.
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Aside from ND there really aren't any potential adds out there that are current/historical football powers, have top shelf academics, and bring a massive new market. USC was probably the last that checked all of those boxes. Rutgers and Maryland obviously checked academics and new markets. Nebraska checked the "historical blueblood" box and could still sneak in with their waning AAU membership. Have to remember at the time they joined the B1G Nebby was coming off of two straight 10-win seasons and three straight divisional titles. Who knew the nosedive that program would take.
 
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1UNI2ISU said:
Rutgers and Maryland are both highly regarded academically.

I honestly think they took Nebraska because they were willing to agree to the lowest share of anybody else they were talking to at the time and checked off 'enough' boxes as a university. They obviously have to be the one that the Big Ten regrets the most.they
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I dissagree Nebby makes total sense, Rutgers and Maryland not so much, no one cares about RU and Maryland was piss poor money wise they needed a lifeboat.
 
Gonzo said:
Aside from ND there really aren't any potential adds out there that are current/historical football powers, have top shelf academics, and bring a massive new market. USC was probably the last that checked all of those boxes. Rutgers and Maryland obviously checked academics and new markets. Nebraska checked the "historical blueblood" box and could still sneak in with their waning AAU membership. Have to remember at the time they joined the B1G Nebby was coming off of two straight 10-win seasons and three straight divisional titles. Who knew the nosedive that program would take.
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I certainly didn't expect them to be as bad as they have been, but in my opinion, a HUGE portion of that is joining the B10 in the first place. They literally lost all of their recruiting grounds to more local schools close to the grounds still in B12/SEC.
 
Gonzo said:
Aside from ND there really aren't any potential adds out there that are current/historical football powers, have top shelf academics, and bring a massive new market. USC was probably the last that checked all of those boxes. Rutgers and Maryland obviously checked academics and new markets. Nebraska checked the "historical blueblood" box and could still sneak in with their waning AAU membership. Have to remember at the time they joined the B1G Nebby was coming off of two straight 10-win seasons and three straight divisional titles. Who knew the nosedive that program would take.
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I like the B10 and I know USC and UCLA are sexy adds, but it is just stupid. After a year or two of being the new gal on the block it will get old and the normal B10 area wont care about them and LA wont care about being in the B10.
 
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Yellow Snow said:
I certainly didn't expect them to be as bad as they have been, but in my opinion, a HUGE portion of that is joining the B10 in the first place. They literally lost all of their recruiting grounds to more local schools close to the grounds still in B12/SEC.
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Nebby and the fanbase are the reason they suck, They should have kept Solich, and then to a point Pelini, he has was an ahole but won 10 games a year. Now they might have it right in Ruhlle. Time will tell
 
CyCrazy said:
I like the B10 and I know USC and UCLA are sexy adds, but it is just stupid. After a year or two of being the new gal on the block it will get old and the normal B10 area wont care about them and LA wont care about being in the B10.
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I don't think most of LA cares about being in the B1G right now. We'll see if it fades that fast among B1G fans though, going to be pretty cool playing those guys at home and out there.
 
Gonzo said:
I don't think most of LA cares about being in the B1G right now. We'll see if it fades that fast among B1G fans though, going to be pretty cool playing those guys at home and out there.
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Could be right, and yes I know their are B10 fans everywhere so it has a chance. But its not like Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota, Indiana, etc.... are not going to be on the regular rotation. It will probably be a 4 year window between playing them in a home/away games.
 
AuH2O said:
I could see a few novelty trips the first couple of years by other teams’ fans, but then it will really dry up.
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I don't know what you are even arguing, what do you mean "a few novelty trips...then it will really dry up"? UCLA is leaving the PAC, once they are gone the basketball attendance conference wide will be even worse. UO/UW/UU/UA will not have a home games against them, a school full of tradition, usually a top 25 team (this year a top 5 team), going to see your team - possibly pull off a upset against that will be gone.
 
Acylum said:
Pretty much everybody but Nebraska questioned where their recruiting base would move to.
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Recruiting hasn't been their problem, their classes since joining the B1G have been on par or better than where they were in the last 4-5 years in the Big 12.
 
Gonzo said:
Recruiting hasn't been their problem, their classes since joining the B1G have been on par or better than where they were in the last 4-5 years in the Big 12.
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Lol. Recruiting rankings are meaningless.
 
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