Good grief. SDSU would not be a good addition. Isn’t the money greater if the Big 12 adds P5 teams. ASU and Arizona are not in a position to dictate anything.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Good grief. SDSU would not be a good addition. Isn’t the money greater if the Big 12 adds P5 teams. ASU and Arizona are not in a position to dictate anything.
It’s not like the AZ schools have historically had close rivals. The west is deceptively large. From Phoenix, LA is about a 6hr drive. Salt Lake City and the Bay Area are 11. Denver’s 13. It just gets worse from there. Add another 1.5hrs from Tuscon.
If they want to be in a conference with SDSU (5hrs from Phoenix), by all means, they should just stick with the PAC.
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Good grief, indeed.
IF, IF, their inclusion would get PAC targets to jump, we’d take them. It would not be the optimal addition, but that’s largely irrelevant if it gets you 5 out of 6 PAC targets. In terms of cost, we gave up more when expediting a deal to get ahead of PAC, as well as get OUT out by 2024.
We can debate the likelihood of the IF- I’d say 1 in 4- more likely we either already have some PAC nearly locked up, or that the PAC sticks together regardless of how we try to facilitate the exodus
Thinking that the Big 12 adding SDSU is going to make other PAC 12 teams jump is delusional. It weakens our per team payments. They are not P5. Oregon and Washington are not likely to sign a GOR. And a complete streaming deal is not desired. Those are the things that will make PAC 12 teams jump. Not the addition of SDSU.
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Let’s just say the article bluntly states it, the only option for the four corners is the Big 12 in the long-term. The question is whether they want to ride this roller coaster of instability one more time (5 more years until Oregon and Washington presumably get the invite to leave), or whether they want to control their own destiny.
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Let’s just say the article bluntly states it, the only option for the four corners is the Big 12 in the long-term. The question is whether they want to ride this roller coaster of instability one more time (5 more years until Oregon and Washington presumably get the invite to leave), or whether they want to control their own destiny.
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The P12 is in a world of trouble, and their Comish is either clueless, which I doubt, or is fighting to keep his job, the league folds they do not need him.
The guy has yet to sign a TV rights deal that will be close to what the B12 already signed even after repeatedly stating he would get the deal down.
His two highest rated brands, Oregon and Washington have both basically stated they are leaving if they get a B10 offer, and I would think any service wanting to broadcast P12 games wants an assurance that both of the schools will be there the entire length of the contract, and neither school is going to sign a long term deal.
Unless they get some miracle dropped in their lap, the schools will move for the money and stability of the B12 and B10.
The guy has yet to sign a TV rights deal that will be close to what the B12 already signed even after repeatedly stating he would get the deal down.
His two highest rated brands, Oregon and Washington have both basically stated they are leaving if they get a B10 offer, and I would think any service wanting to broadcast P12 games wants an assurance that both of the schools will be there the entire length of the contract, and neither school is going to sign a long term deal.
Unless they get some miracle dropped in their lap, the schools will move for the money and stability of the B12 and B10.
I see this is from someone else’s work ….. and you quoted it. It needs a link, basic forum rules around here.
And now to the content…. What quality of journalist thinks UCLA gets booted from the Big10? Only way I think someone types that is they have a anti-UCLA axe to grind cause their is no avenue the Big10 kicks them our or anyone else … see PSU, MSU, hell kNU is breathing nicely over there.
Lots of blame to put on the commish… but if no one wants to buy, you can’t force the sale. He may be doing all that he can with what others want… but also, he may be in over his head in what conference commishs now do.
He may also know that he has a complete mess on his hands and by stretching things out, he is buying himself a paycheck for another year or so.
I think you need to go back to the original threads and re-read. It had nothing to do with "the Big10 kicks them our". This article is pretty clearly referencing the Cal Regents meetings back in December on whether UCLA leadership had the right to make the decision to join the Big10 last July. And the Cal Regents attempt to package Cal/UCLA onto the Big10.
One other thing to look at for the conference distributions for Big 12 versus the PAC 10/12 is the dollar value. Our new student performance center cost how much, 80MM? What does that facility cost in LA, in SF, even Phx. If the old Big 8 schools even pull the same TV rights money as the PAC, what they can do with it has more power than the PAC since the costs are much lower for buildings, cost of living for coaches and other things. One way JP has been able to do as much as he has with such limited funds.
Washington and Oregon will not move until the eventual offer comes from the Big Ten. They are waiting for the PAC 12 to fold before taking them in. But there is no doubt that the B1G will take them in. Every bit as good or better than any team that the ACC has. PAC 12 has no deal that everyone will sign up for. Arizona and Arizona will be the first. Colorado will once again abandon a Conference. And Utah will realize that if Washington and Oregon are struggling to get their B1G invitation that Utah only has the Big 12 as an option. Washington and Oregon will negotiate with B1G to get a spot. PAC 12 name will be retained as the better teams in the MWC join.
Clemson and Florida St, are and have been better programs, each winning national titles in the past decade. Other than that, I believe you are correct.
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Decent programs that flourished in a weaker ACC. Eastern Time Zone is already crowded with inventor. Washington and Oregon joining absolutely shuts out the SEC as a Coast to Coast Conference. I see them as the more strategic choice.
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True, but taking Clemson and Florida State get the B10 into better recruiting areas of the South, closer trips and allows them to get a solid hold on the Atlantic Coast, along with N. Carolina and Virginia. Not even bringing up the idea that Florida and S. Carolina are larger in population that Oregon and Washington.