Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

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Let's say that happens, that the lift for UCLA to the Big Ten becomes too heavy to bear. What happens next? Does the Big Ten simply invite Stanford to take UCLA's place -- a move that does nothing to preserve the Pac-12 but manages to hurt both Cal and UCLA equally? Or does the B1G become the B18 and bring all UCLA, USC, Cal and Stanford aboard? And is that the UC regents' secret plan this whole time?

Sure its conjecture by a writer, but if forced the Big10 could have dropped UCLA or taken all 4 Pac12 schools in CA. No way they stop at 17. Sure the Big10 could have reached out to Oregon or Washington to go with Cal. But I don't think Big10 Presidents would chose those two over Stanford's academic prestige.
I think you’re misreading it slightly. The UC regents could have tried to stop UCLA from joining without Cal.

In response, the B10 would’ve had two paths forward:
  1. Drop UCLA for Stanford, since the UC Regents can’t control them.
  2. Take Cal along with USCLA and add a 4th. Personally, I think WA would have been a more likely 4th in that scenario rather than double dipping in two markets. Markets matter far more for the B10 than other conferences as they have a network to get cable carriage fees. OR would have been 2nd choice, and Stanford 3rd.
Overall, I think having 4 CA schools in the B10 would have been considered a win by the state/UC Regents, but those entities have virtually no power with USC or Stanford’s decision making process.
 
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Let's say that happens, that the lift for UCLA to the Big Ten becomes too heavy to bear. What happens next? Does the Big Ten simply invite Stanford to take UCLA's place -- a move that does nothing to preserve the Pac-12 but manages to hurt both Cal and UCLA equally? Or does the B1G become the B18 and bring all UCLA, USC, Cal and Stanford aboard? And is that the UC regents' secret plan this whole time?

Sure its conjecture by a writer, but if forced the Big10 could have dropped UCLA or taken all 4 Pac12 schools in CA. No way they stop at 17. Sure the Big10 could have reached out to Oregon or Washington to go with Cal. But I don't think Big10 Presidents would chose those two over Stanford's academic prestige.
You implied that the California BoR tried to tie USC with Stanford as part of a package deal to the B1G. The California BoR has ZERO say in what USC or Stanford do.
 
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Yes yes yes I know, MHaver sucks. However, him slapping a date on something seems like a bold thing to do if he's making **** up.




Guess we have some fun ******** to look ahead at coming soon
 
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Yes yes yes I know, MHaver sucks. However, him slapping a date on something seems like a bold thing to do if he's making **** up.




Guess we have some fun ******** to look ahead at coming soon

That guy is absolutely, unequivocably, 100% lying right now.

MHver and the Dude of WV always "confirmed" through "sources" things that never happen.
 
I think you’re misreading it slightly. The UC regents could have tried to stop UCLA from joining without Cal.

In response, the B10 would’ve had two paths forward:
  1. Drop UCLA for Stanford, since the UC Regents can’t control them.
  2. Take Cal along with USCLA and add a 4th. Personally, I think WA would have been a more likely 4th in that scenario rather than double dipping in two markets. Markets matter far more for the B10 than other conferences as they have a network to get cable carriage fees. OR would have been 2nd choice, and Stanford 3rd.
Overall, I think having 4 CA schools in the B10 would have been considered a win by the state/UC Regents, but those entities have virtually no power with USC or Stanford’s decision making process.
Didn't say the Cal BOR had power with Stanford or USC. I believe my words were "essentially" or "in-essence". If the Cal BOR could force Big10 to take Cal-Berkeley, the beneficiary would be Stanford.

In regard to your carriage fee comment. You could be right that adding Seattle would bring more value to BTN than a second Bay Area school. But maybe not. When the Big10 added USC & UCLA there was an article that mentioned by adding both LA schools the carriage fee the Big10 could charge customers in LA would be higher than if it added just 1 LA school. LA market area is 18M people. Would a multiplier apply if Big10 added 2 Bay Area teams? The Bay Area MSA is over 6.7M people while Seattle is 4M.

And from a travel cost, rivalry, academics, silicon valley, etc. - the Cal/Stanford combination might be preferred over Cal/UW or Cal/OR.
 
That guy is absolutely, unequivocably, 100% lying right now.

MHver and the Dude of WV always "confirmed" through "sources" things that never happen.

Amateur hour here. Never commit to a date. Learn from the end of the world preachers on that one. When your date passes, leaves you to explain what went wrong.
 
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Yes yes yes I know, MHaver sucks. However, him slapping a date on something seems like a bold thing to do if he's making **** up.




Guess we have some fun ******** to look ahead at coming soon

Right before the start of the Big12 Conference Tournament (and all other P5 Hoops Tournaments). There wad speculation by media folks that would also be (edit deadline) for Pac12 Commissioner to bring plan to Pac12 Presidents.
 
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Let's say that happens, that the lift for UCLA to the Big Ten becomes too heavy to bear. What happens next? Does the Big Ten simply invite Stanford to take UCLA's place -- a move that does nothing to preserve the Pac-12 but manages to hurt both Cal and UCLA equally? Or does the B1G become the B18 and bring all UCLA, USC, Cal and Stanford aboard? And is that the UC regents' secret plan this whole time?

Sure its conjecture by a writer, but if forced the Big10 could have dropped UCLA or taken all 4 Pac12 schools in CA. No way they stop at 17. Sure the Big10 could have reached out to Oregon or Washington to go with Cal. But I don't think Big10 Presidents would chose those two over Stanford's academic prestige.
Big 10 just swaps out Stanford for UCLA and the Cal BoR just screwed all their schools.

When you factor the total value of the media deal split among all those teams, the difference in swapping Stanford for UCLA isn’t going to be a big difference per team.
 
Amateur hour here. Never commit to a date. Learn from the end of the world preachers on that one. When your date passes, leaves you to explain what went wrong.
I don't remember if it was him or the Dude that named the time and place of the FSU to Big 12 announcement in Tallahassee that no one on campus there knew anything about. FSU fans that bought it were showing up. Sad.
 
Right before the start of the Big12 Conference Tournament (and all other P5 Hoops Tournaments). There wad speculation by media folks that would also be (edit deadline) for Pac12 Commissioner to bring plan to Pac12 Presidents.
I thought that was April.
 
Yes yes yes I know, MHaver sucks. However, him slapping a date on something seems like a bold thing to do if he's making **** up.




Guess we have some fun ******** to look ahead at coming soon

Well I guess we can unequivocally see if he's spouting BS lol (not to say that he doesn't spout BS if it does pan out to be true, but if it's always wrong :P )
 
I thought that was April.

You have media people in both camps. That Kliavkoff has to bring something by Pac12 Tournament and others who don't feel anything will happen until after the Final 4.

I would think Final 4 makes more sense. Typically sports leagues don't like news to break during their big events to detract reporting from the event. Especially bad news.
 

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