Coaching changes

In basketball? Yes.

You might want to check that. I don't see it. There's no record on either side to suggest one program is that much better than the other.

So no, we're not an elite program that can fire a coach on a whim and expect to automatically get the next great coach out there.
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you can't just pick one point and use that.

I'm not wanting to bash us. Only point out we aren't a great program that can drop a coach willy nilly.

An example of a program that can....Kentucky.

We can't....End of discussion.

Can we expect better? Yes.
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Regardless of coaching changes or who the coach happens to be at any given time...

I hope we can all AGREE that Last Place is unacceptable at Iowa State!!!!!:cool:
 
all you have to do is look at the Morgan hire to see how far our program had fallen. NO COACH wanted the job.
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U-B-Rite...No established coach wants to come here to Ames....Too tough to win conference championships and who in their rite mind wants to play second fiddle to the u of i at a payscale that is riduculous!!!

I wonder how much money Ricky Barnes is getting at Texas??

You can see the schools with not much money...ISU-CU-KSU...Just look at their coaches!!!

With that said I'm willing to write this season off to experience and give McDermott another 4 years to get to the ncaa tourney!!:cool:
 
Regardless of coaching changes or who the coach happens to be at any given time...

I hope we can all AGREE that Last Place is unacceptable at Iowa State!!!!!:cool:

Well, I agree with that.

I hope we can agree that bottom third is unacceptable at Iowa State.
 
Last place is unacceptable. That means we have slipped in the last two years of turmoil to an even worse position. Sagarin says we would be the eight place team in the MVC. That is bad.
 
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If I recall Orr very much wanted his long time assistant Jim Hallihan to be his succssor.

Thats the way I remember it too...also Gary Thompson didnt want Hallihan but Gary wanted Tim Floyd and even after Tim F turned down ISU ... Gary Thompson stayed after Tim until he got TF to come to Ames!!!!:cool:
 
As I recall, the big whig that Floyd had in his corner. . . .

The big whig was Henry Clay, I think.

(Hope you don't mind, but I think you meant bigwig, and big whig just tickled my fancy, since Clay and Lincoln, I think, are the nation's most well-known Whigs. Thank you for the morning chuckle.)
 
Obviously the skip the town clauee for gene was not large enough. He did not even pay half the grief.
 
. . . I'm willing to write this season off to experience and give McDermott another 4 years to get to the ncaa tourney!!:cool:

Me, too. And, this is JP's stated position as well; that is, he has said that he considers this season to be Greg's first, since the program was so discombobulated when Greg took over.

Agree with JP or don't agree with him, this is the way it is. I'm one fan who wants to see what Greg can do with four successive "normal" recruiting classes. His second "normal" class hits the Hilton floor in October.
 
I am conflicted about posting this, but if you accept that the team was starting from scratch with him, then look at where Orr was his first 5 years, and he had serious credentials. It was a different time, however.

I don't mind giving him 5 years to get things stabilized. He obviously can recruit adequately, and that was the biggest concern many people had. I am getting very frustrated, but hopefully the team keeps improving.
 
With the way the athletic budget looks now, the way the economy is, and the emergency fund being used McD will be here for the life of his contract. Those who want him gone may as well get behind him and support him and his team because all the negative talk isnt going to help this team win.
 
As disapointed as I was with McD's coaching in the begining of the season, I am pretty impressed now. He is getting the most out of what he has, and it looks like what he has is going to improve greatly over the next few years...
 
With the way the athletic budget looks now, the way the economy is, and the emergency fund being used McD will be here for the life of his contract. Those who want him gone may as well get behind him and support him and his team because all the negative talk isnt going to help this team win.

I don't think blindly shooting rainbows out of our ***** will help the team win, either. I can get behind his gameplan--that was great on Saturday. I can't get behind where our talent or record is.

I have only seen 1 or 2 posters talk of wanting him gone. I've been an outspoken critic of his (most people only read the negative posts), but I don't want him gone. I would like to see improvement. Johnny Orr was able to improve his first few years on the job.

I agree with the econimic times that we can't afford to fire him anytime soon. On the other hand, if he doesn't win for another 5 years like another poster suggested, we won't have an athletic budget to support--I can't imagine how many people would attend games after 7+ years of no postseason.
 
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I agree with the econimic times that we can't afford to fire him anytime soon. On the other hand, if he doesn't win for another 5 years like another poster suggested, we won't have an athletic budget to support--I can't imagine how many people would attend games after 7+ years of no postseason.

He should get 5 years from the day he was hired to make the tourny.
 

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