Alec Baldwin

[ruxCYtable]

I think he's a terrible person but I'm really surprised they are charging him. He wasn't in charge of props and, from what I read, the "projectile" misfired and **** flew everywhere. Having a hard time seeing how he's culpable here. Is it just a DA trying to make a name for himself/herself or what?

 

[Bigman38]

I think he's a terrible person but I'm really surprised they are charging him. He wasn't in charge of props and, from what I read, the "projectile" misfired and **** flew everywhere. Having a hard time seeing how he's culpable here. Is it just a DA trying to make a name for himself/herself or what?

In their statement they say "actors are not above the law" so IMO your guess is probably accurate.

 

[flynnhicks03]

I think he's a terrible person but I'm really surprised they are charging him. He wasn't in charge of props and, from what I read, the "projectile" misfired and **** flew everywhere. Having a hard time seeing how he's culpable here. Is it just a DA trying to make a name for himself/herself or what?

Sounds like they're throwing charges at anyone within a 100 ft radius of the accident. Someone was obviously negligent, and I would imagine that want to make sure they get the right person/people. Strange deal, though.

 

[WooBadger18]

In their statement they say "actors are not above the law" so IMO your guess is probably accurate.

Wasn’t he also a producer? I thought they were going after him for having some responsibility that way. We’ll see what comes out

 

[Drew0311]

I think he is getting the charges because He was the producer in the movie also. Not just the gunman.

 

[Gorm]

I think he's a terrible person but I'm really surprised they are charging him. He wasn't in charge of props and, from what I read, the "projectile" misfired and **** flew everywhere. Having a hard time seeing how he's culpable here. Is it just a DA trying to make a name for himself/herself or what?

I'd be careful having any assumptions on his guilt or innocence at this point. There could be a lot of things in play here. I look forward to seeing what evidence the DA is going to present that support the charges.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Alec work out a deal for lesser charges in exchange for his testimony against the weapons armorer that was also charged. Could be this is what the DA is hoping for, and is over charging Alec to get that leverage.

 

[coolerifyoudid]

It makes more sense if it's because he was the producer. Otherwise, it would set a scary precedent for actors in action movies that involve weapons.

 

[Rabbuk]

Wasn’t he also a producer? I thought they were going after him for having some responsibility that way. We’ll see what comes out

I think they also used a pretty sketchy propmaster too. Not sure if there's some kind of culpability there. Doesn't seem like Baldwin himself could really personally know there were issues with the projectile.

 

[Drew0311]

I'd be careful having any assumptions on his guilt or innocence at this point. There could be a lot of things in play here. I look forward to seeing what evidence the DA is going to present that support the charges.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Alec work out a deal for lesser charges in exchange for his testimony against the weapons armorer that was also charged. Could be this is what the DA is hoping for, and is over charging Alec to get that leverage.

One of the other guys involved already cut a deal. I would assume, unless Baldwin does his normal bold headed type stuff, will cut a deal to stay out of jail and pay a fine.

 

[ruxCYtable]

It makes more sense if it's because he was the producer. Otherwise, it would set a scary precedent for actors in action movies that involve weapons.

I heard a lot of productions have gone to using CGI for gunshots, or will

 

[Bigman38]

Wasn’t he also a producer? I thought they were going after him for having some responsibility that way. We’ll see what comes out

They're charging him in both roles actor/producer if I read it correctly

 

[isutrevman]

I'm not sure if "I didn't know the gun was loaded" is a good defense. If this wasn't on a movie set, would that fly? If you had a buddy hand you a rifle and tell you it's not loaded, would you point it at someone and pull the trigger without checking yourself? If you killed someone that way, would you be innocent since your friend told you it wasn't loaded? Isn't that why it's manslaughter and not murder? He didn't mean to kill her, but was still negligent. He's the one that ultimately fired the gun.

 

[houjix]

I heard a lot of productions have gone to using CGI for gunshots, or will

Heard that, too. Not only is it safer, but some have said it is cheaper as they wouldn't need to carry the necessary insurance or hire a firearms expert.

 

[Gorm]

It makes more sense if it's because he was the producer. Otherwise, it would set a scary precedent for actors in action movies that involve weapons.

I'd venture a guess that these events have given the industry a bit of a wake up call. Wouldn't surprise me if a ton of focus on weapon props / process for using...etc has been radically changed since the shooting occurred.

Has there been another incident in history where an accidental "prop gun" shooting occured and people were charged? I can't find one, although there may have been. Even the person who killed Brandon Lee on The Crow set didn't get charged. I do believe there was a civil suit though.

 

[NATEizKING]

How is using a real gun legal? Can't make a non-lethal replica in this day and age?

 

[cyfanatic13]

I'm not sure if "I didn't know the gun was loaded" is a good defense. If this wasn't on a movie set, would that fly? If you had a buddy hand you a rifle and tell you it's not loaded, would you point it at someone and pull the trigger without checking yourself? If you killed someone that way, would you be innocent since your friend told you it wasn't loaded? Isn't that why it's manslaughter and not murder? He didn't mean to kill her, but was still negligent. He's the one that ultimately fired the gun.

But it is on a movie site so it’s wildly different than your scenario

 

[alarson]

I think he is getting the charges because He was the producer in the movie also. Not just the gunman.

This seems like more of a civil liability case though than a criminal case.

As a producer, by hiring people who were supposed to handle this (the armorer and assistant director who is in charge of on set safety, both who apparently ****** up here), that itself would seem to mitigate claims of negligence on the part of the producers (and note, the other producers aren't facing charges)

We'll have to see the full evidence, but it seems like a prosecutor with a motive to me early on.

 

[ruxCYtable]

I'm not sure if "I didn't know the gun was loaded" is a good defense. If this wasn't on a movie set, would that fly? If you had a buddy hand you a rifle and tell you it's not loaded, would you point it at someone and pull the trigger without checking yourself? If you killed someone that way, would you be innocent since your friend told you it wasn't loaded? Isn't that why it's manslaughter and not murder? He didn't mean to kill her, but was still negligent. He's the one that ultimately fired the gun.

True, but the set had a prop master. And there are very strict rules about guns on set. I think you could say he had very strong reason to assume it wasn't loaded.

 

[Drew0311]

Here is the Armorer. From her statements, she totally should not have been left alone to do this. She said she was affraid to load blanks because she didn't know anything about it. Apparently her dad has done this job for years and she is a second generation. They could have got any Marine to do a better job to be honest.

Who is Hannah Gutierrez-Reed? The 'Rust' armorer who will be charged with involuntary manslaughter alongside Alec Baldwin

Gutierrez-Reed and Baldwin no longer face a firearm enhancement charge as of February 2023, which decreases their potential sentences by five years.

www.insider.com

 

[Urbandale2013]

Only chance he actually gets punished if it’s his role as a producer. From what I saw they are also saying that he is responsible because of him being the person to fire it. I just don’t see any chance you get a jury to convict or even that he would be guilty under the letter of the law. To me it seems like they are way overreaching on these charges.