People to this day refuse to admit that Manning was terrible at his job - DESPITE the fact that even if the offense was bad this past season we would have easily been in a bowl.
49ers - Brock Purdy - Still and Always #1
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People to this day refuse to admit that Manning was terrible at his job - DESPITE the fact that even if the offense was bad this past season we would have easily been in a bowl.
Disagree. Lots of people on here refusing to even question our 2021 underachievement.
The number of "dumb" posts I received the last 4 years every time I criticized Manning and said this offense would have been better with someone else in charge during gameday threads would say otherwise.
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That's the thing - as good as the offense was statistically 2019-2021, it should have been even more record-breaking. And let's talk about how they made Brock Purdy afraid to leave the pocket, something that the coaches at SF have corrected since.
It wasn't just that the play calling was bad, it was they made Purdy afraid to use the things that made him special in the first place.
Gameday threads are a **** hole of stupidity.
We want to blame Manning for 2021, but in reality, in 3 of our losses, the offense was handicapped by inept special teams (Baylor) or defense that got exploited (tech and WVU). Hall, Purdy and the offense did enough to win those games. 10-2 and a spot in the CCG wouldn’t have been a disappointing season.
Not saying Manning was good, just that it’s revisionist history to blame the entirety of the disappointment on the offense.
Not saying Manning was good, just that it’s revisionist history to blame the entirety of the disappointment on the offense.
True. But every time you would have the discussion, the only thing those defending Manning would point to was the record-breaking stats, and yes, I'm not going to argue that the stats were impressive. But what they would always ignore is what would happen when the game was on the line how the offense would either completely disappear or would make some critical mistake that would cost us the game. And when you point that out the line always repeated robotically was "it's up to the players to make the plays". So... players who hold all the records suddenly don't know how to play when the game is on the line? Guess what - that's a COACHING ISSUE - whether it's not calling the right plays at the right time or not having the players prepared to perform in the most important moments. And I'll go right back to the end of the Big 12 Championship game down by 6 where Purdy had 30+ yards of open field in front of him, and instead of tucking the ball and running, he decided it was better to throw the ball downfield to a double-covered Kolar who couldn't make the catch. Earlier in Purdy's career he would have taken that gift, but the coaches made Purdy so damn afraid to run with the ball that for some stupid reason he forced a throw. It's actually unbelievable how badly coaching nearly ruined Purdy during his time here.
One reason would be that it‘s over.
Exactly. To blame that season on the offense is a little bit ignorant. TT and WV were 100% on the defense. Baylor was more special teams than anything. I'll blame the offense for the losses to iowa and Clemson. OU we just got outclassed.
I'm not going to say that Manning was a great OC. But, when you have a bad OL and no real deep threats at WR, there's not a lot he can do as far as play calling. Then this year you add RB injuries and the running game goes to crap. I put the blame more on OL evaluation, development and scheme than anything. Now Manning has something to do with that as well, but he kind of shares the blame with Campbell and Meyers there.
Manning had some of the best ever offenses at ISU. They successfully transitioned from a deep game with Lazard and Butler to a short passing game with Kolar, Allen and X. Good OCs run schemes based on the talent at hand and he did that. That said, the Toledo OL system obviously was not working and they probably should have moved on from Meyers a year earlier. I think that Manning was a little bit of a scapegoat, but there was plenty of blame to go around for both 21 and 22. He deserved a portion of it, but not all of it.
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While I agree that the offense would have been better if they let Purdy improvise and run more, how good would it be if he got hurt? They were managing risk. Maybe not the right decision, but I can see why they did it. Obviously, Purdy is showing how good he can be with the right pieces around him. But we didn't have those pieces. We depended on him to carry the team and he's not doing that if he's knocked out.
I think a lot of the issues stem directly from the OL rather than Manning himself. Sure he could have done a much better job of calling plays knowing that the OL sucked, but having a line that couldn't do anything very well makes it hard. Last year was terrible, but, as many have pointed out, the 2021 team should have been way better. Personally, I feel that there were way more guys playing injured in that year than the coaching staff was reporting.
Campbell hiring a grad assistant as a OL coach was a huge mistake, and hopefully the new guy can do something with the guys on the team. If not, next year is going to be a long season.
Guys there are multiple threads ******** about Manning. Can we not do that here???
Youre not wrong, but none of the names listed there are O line. Brock and Breece both getting to shine with cream of the crop trenches.
There was a lot of scrambling for their lives at ISU. Put it on Manning and Meyers or the talent, but it is what it was.
Brock purdy is pretty awesome isn't he?
Now go ***** about manning somewhere else.
Now go ***** about manning somewhere else.
Been listening to some national radio shows today and you are really starting to hear more push back on the Purdy love. Not a majority by any means, but there is a certain segment of the sports world that just can't stand everyone having a good time with a story and feels a need to **** all over it. They are definitely getting louder and you can tell they are really starting to invest in his failure so they can say "I told you so!" Hopefully Purdy can keep the hype train rolling all the way to the Super Bowl!