Heisman Trophy malaise

It's a nice piece of hardware to have, but when a lot of these guys go on to fizzle out in the NFL I think is where it loses some of its luster. Eric Crouch and Chris Weinke? Those guys barely had a cup of coffee in the NFL. It is because a lot of the time, it's not the best player in college football. It is the QB on the best or one of the best teams. If Spencer Bennett wins it this year, I will be outraged.
 
It's a nice piece of hardware to have, but when a lot of these guys go on to fizzle out in the NFL I think is where it loses some of its luster. Eric Crouch and Chris Weinke? Those guys barely had a cup of coffee in the NFL. It is because a lot of the time, it's not the best player in college football. It is the QB on the best or one of the best teams. If Spencer Bennett wins it this year, I will be outraged.

It's not meant to be a trophy for "the guy most likely to succeed in the NFL", so I am not sure why that matters.
 
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It's not meant to be a trophy for "the guy most likely to succeed in the NFL", so I am not sure why that matters.
Maybe not, but if it's truly going to the best player in CFB, I think that player most likely goes on to have a successful NFL career.
 
It feels like every other aspect of college football's past that's losing cultural significance as the game races to turn it's self into NFL Lite.

Conferences, bowl games, awards, all of these things have suffered in their importance because of this media driven obsession with consolidation and playoffs.
 
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Maybe not, but if it's truly going to the best player in CFB, I think that player most likely goes on to have a successful NFL career.

Not necessarily, there are a lot of system players who are really good in college that aren't made for the NFL.

Nebraska option QB's
Anyone who played under Spurrier
Hell if Troy Davis would have won it he would have been in this category
 
Not necessarily, there are a lot of system players who are really good in college that aren't made for the NFL.

Nebraska option QB's
Anyone who played under Spurrier
Hell if Troy Davis would have won it he would have been in this category
I agree. You changed my mind. I suppose if Luka Garza can win a Wooden Award and go on to have a career in the G League or overseas it doesn't mean he wasn't the best player in college basketball that year. Statistically anyway, he was, with obvious holes in his game that didn't matter as much until he got to the next level.
 
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I agree. You changed my mind. I suppose if Luka Garza can win a Wooden Award and go on to have a career in the G League or overseas it doesn't mean he wasn't the best player in college basketball that year. Statistically anyway, he was, with obvious holes in his game that didn't matter as much until he got to the next level.

I like the Garza example for basketball. There are a lot of really good college players that for some reason or another just don't translate well to the pros, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't win awards for being really good in college.
 
It's a nice piece of hardware to have, but when a lot of these guys go on to fizzle out in the NFL I think is where it loses some of its luster. Eric Crouch and Chris Weinke? Those guys barely had a cup of coffee in the NFL. It is because a lot of the time, it's not the best player in college football. It is the QB on the best or one of the best teams. If Spencer Bennett wins it this year, I will be outraged.
Actually, it's always been like that. I think for quite a while Staubach and OJ were the only winners in the NFL HOF.

To the other point in this thread, it probably still goes to the best player in the country. It's just that the best players are now concentrated in a handful of schools. Sucks, but that's why they always win.

That said, I agree the award has lost it's luster. I rarely pay attention anymore.
 
I thought the team got this out of their system with North Carolina....apparently not.
 
Maybe not, but if it's truly going to the best player in CFB, I think that player most likely goes on to have a successful NFL career.

These have been two different types of styles and games for a very long time though.

Fit into a system, timing, etc. all go into that just like how someone may have a marginal collegiate career or play at a small school but then go on to do very well in the pros.
 
Like others have mentioned I think it's because who the award goes to is boring. Sure Alabama, Ohio State or Oklahoma under Rielly quarterbacks were good football players, but were they really the best in all of the sport? Or were they good players putting up good stats on great teams? If they spiced up the award more like giving it to Suh or maybe Hutchinson then there would be more reason to discuss the Heisman.
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If Caleb Williams wins it after transferring, that will seem contrary to the award’s main tenants.
 
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A prestige award for a sport that’s shed all pretense of integrity.
 
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