Bruns - Iowa Everywhere
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Prime example of the “it’s not just who you have and how the trajectory is always to be up” is the defending Super Bowl champs. The Rams won the Super Bowl and are not just bad this year, they are a tire fire. Sooooo what happened?
CycloneErik
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He's had a much higher level of success that Campbell.
We shall see what happens with Campbell.
Kirk went 2002-2004 with records of 11-2, 10-3 and 10-2.
He followed that up with 7-5, 6-7 and 6-6. Then he ended up winning 9 games and 11 games before dipping back down again.
So let’s see what Campbell does with his down year(s).
They lost tons of players. This isn't conducive to ISU last year as an analogy, however.
I dislike the Hawkeyes with a passion but let’s be honest that no Cyclone fan would be complaining much about a down season (defining that as 6-6 or whatever) if we had experienced multiple 10 win seasons. I believe a lot of the criticism of this staff would be absent or confined to a down season if 2019 and 2021 both had been 8 wins or better.
You don't know Cyclone fans as well as you think you do then.
Does your name 3TrueFans mean the following:
1. True fan of Matt Campbell
2. True fan of Steve Prohm
3. True fan of antipathy towards all Cyclone fans
Umm I believe it is exactly like this season for us. We lost a ton of talent and the biggest skill position, QB, is a first time starter for us. Unlike the Rams with Stafford. They won the Super Bowl and are abysmal. We won 7 games and have gotten worse this year. Our team wasn't good enough to win the Big 12 last year. Coaching or not on offense, the defense (run by God himself Jon Heacock) lost us two Big 12 games last year. WVU and Tech were completely on the defense. So Heacock must suck because of what we had coming back last year.
I'll be dammed if anyone reminds us Heacocks unit has lost us games before. Only Manning is to blame for not out scoring those teams
If I wanted to watch Iowa style football, I would drink heavily and watch the Hawkeyes.
We now do it, but in a less entertaining way.
Our coaches still cannot run a 2 minute drill, manage timeouts, or make in-game adjustments on the offensive side of the ball. Our special teams are still awful. In year 7.
It is appalling at how little this offensive staff has improved in 7 years at a P5 institution.
Apparently there is no operational feedback from week to week, and we also do not self-scout and then adjust.
Conference coaches have to be laughing at how easy it is to call a defense against ISU now.
I said LAST year. Yes this year it could be similar but the NFL is nothing like college, although NIL is making it more so. This isn't about defense good/offense bad. This is big boy get your **** together football. It was horribly unorganized on Saturday. It's not getting better.
You got it tough guy. You are beating a dead horse. EVERYBODY knows this year in particular has absolutely sucked. There are clear issues that without big time talent at RB especially, have now been brought to life for Campbell to see.
He has earned the chance to remedy these things, which he has shown to do in the past (I.e. letting go of his good friend after the Notre Dame beat down in the strength and conditioning department).
I’m so sick of the whole, “2021 was our best team ever and we massively underachieved due to the same glaring issues we are seeing this year too.”
First of all, was it the best team we’ve had? Because you can’t have it both ways for the half of the fanbase that discredits 2020 due to a fluke Covid season. Because if that was a fluke year then without Covid, maybe they were only a 6-win team and we actually improved a game last year to 7 wins. Again, 2020 was either 100% legit or you can’t say last year was a failure.
As mentioned for last years “best team ever” it was the defense, not the offense, that lost us the WVU and Tech games. Flip those two games that we still could have won even with that dog **** performance on the defensive side and it’s a 9-win season. I bring those games up because this year has been entirely on the offense but people are revising last year and saying the exact same stuff happened last year, hence why we underachieved. And that’s not true. The defense (not a problem this year) crapped the bed on multiple occasions.
I don’t think I’ve ever wanted a coach and team to win more than I want our squad next year to do. Just to shut all of you dipshits up who are actually insane enough to suggest CMC should be fired. And what’s funny is there are many of you (not saying you are one of them but your posting screams like it) that will actually be happy if we repeat this next year just so you can crow you were right. Actually wanting us to lose just to be right is ******* weird.
In the end, I’ve been as frustrated as anyone. Hell look at my irrational and frustrated posting during the game threads. But still perspective is needed. Listen to Two Chris’s pod on Iowa Everywhere and it’s sad that Hawk fan Chris Hassel of all people has the level head. In the most recent episode he talks about exactly what I said in another post about Kirks great run and then going south for a few years but then rebounding again to win the Orange Bowl over Georgia Tech.
Lol congrats Tom, you can name two games in two years where the defense didn’t play well. ISU is losing 14-10 to a bunch of teams that are otherwise playing in the 30s and 40s. No defense is perfect. The ISU defense is incredible. The maximization of talent is unreal.
You're sticking a lot of words in my mouth. I guess I'll let you have your sense of victory. 2020 wasn't a fluke and yes we had the same issues we are having today back then. To suggest the defense is to blame for last year is just ridiculous. 2 games? How many times has the offense **** the bed in Campbell's tenure?
2020 team played some real good football toward the end of the season. I think they would have beaten KSU and WV but not the way they did with all of their players out or returning from 3 weeks off. They also benefited playing OU early and Texas making some stupid decisions.
The issues contributing to the loss in the CCG weren't new by a long shot.
There was an expectation to just do the same in 2021 at the snap of the finger since so many players returned but that's not how sports works.
The defense is really good but sputtered even Saturday when they needed to step up after getting the lead. That was also Tech out-coaching ISU with the response to kick up the tempo and keep ISU on their heels. What a difference between that and ISU getting a turn over to start the game and....running a delayed handoff.
Not about winning and I don’t need a message board “victory”. What I enjoy is pointing out how ridiculous you sound.
Every season is its own thing. And last season believe it or not the defense blew two conference (22% so almost a quarter) games against inferior competition. And I think the defense deserves every pass in the world because they do. But if you want to harp on previous season’s issues for one side then I am going to bring you facts. And the fact is, our amazing defense cost us two games last year that were easily two of the games we counted as wins to start the season. And boom there’s a 9-win season.
Also just to keep sounding as insane as some of you (and again just playing Devil’s advocate here because the offense sucks and is to blame for this season) but the defense the last two weeks got something from the offense finally to take the lead in both games and then immediately **** the bed to give up TDs to Okie State and Tech after halting them all day long.
I think Campbell is pretty good and knows a lot more than me about football. I also think he's relatively young, and even great coaches don't know everything or get stuck in ruts.
One of the qualities of a great leader is to know what you're not good at, and to find guys to fill those gaps or teach you. If he doesn't do that, then quite frankly I won't consider him a great coach.