CW POD: Is pro wrestling fun again?

The damndest thing I've in wrestling in a long time. If this is it for Reigns Lesnar this is how you go out.
 
Watched the Ric Flair card last night. Some of it was fun. Some was pretty goddam bad.

Does every match need to have someone jump over the ropes to the floor or off the top to the floor? If everyone is doing it then it completely loses its luster. Nothing special about a move so telegraphed and duplicated

Flair. This needs to be his last match. Wow. The videos of him training must've been the entire amount of training. Dude is the greatest, but he was gassed 5 minutes after putting a dude in the headlock.

Jeff Jarrett looked great and should've been this level of heel for his entire career...

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Being so old (I would know) I bet his dreams of a non-choreographed match went away in about 10 seconds.

He is the greatest wrestler of all time for the ability to say and do, "Just follow me, I'll bring it home".
 
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Karrion Kross and Scarlett back in wwe and not as the stupid gimmick he had on the main roster when he left but the gimmick he had in nxt that was bad ***
 
Paul Levesque has been on the job for two weeks, and while I'm not quite ready to label his work as greatness yet, the last two weeks have been a hell of a lot more interesting than the last decade under Vince.

I mean, how they're bringing back (released in April) and introducing Dexter Lumis to the main roster - background car accident; background security incident; then, to end the show, near ringside security incident revealing it's Lumis.

If anything, none of this has been boring. Even Omos was slightly compelling tonight.
 
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Paul Levesque has been on the job for two weeks, and while I'm not quite ready to label his work as greatness yet, the last two weeks have been a hell of a lot more interesting than the last decade under Vince.

I mean, how they're bringing back (released in April) and introducing Dexter Lumis to the main roster - background car accident; background security incident; then, to end the show, near ringside security incident revealing it's Lumis.

If anything, none of this has been boring. Even Omos was slightly compelling tonight.

I've been listening to the Arn Anderson podcast. He spent a long time in the WWE(F).

He plays his cards close to the vest, but more and more it seems like Vince was just a prick. ******* with the wrestlers to "test" them. When he brought in territory guys he'd bury them with a **** gimmick (see The Red Rooster and Dusty Rhodes)

Going to the WWF even back then had risk. One man could break a career and he let the talent know that.
 
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I've been listening to the Arn Anderson podcast. He spent a long time in the WWE(F).

He plays his cards close to the vest, but more and more it seems like Vince was just a prick. ******* with the wrestlers to "test" them. When he brought in territory guys he'd bury them with a **** gimmick (see The Red Rooster and Dusty Rhodes)

Going to the WWF even back then had risk. One man could break a career and he let the talent know that.

I don’t doubt Arn in the slightest, because I only need one example: DDP. DDP was the guy that, besides Sting, probably the most over guy to work for WCW, certainly known as the guy who worked the hardest out of anyone to earn his position there, and did it when most wrestlers are already considered past their prime. Had one of the most incredible feuds in the history of pro wrestling with Macho Man, and it’s widely known this all started because Macho Man noticed, and one night on a whim decided he wanted to take the Diamond Cutter, and DDP used the opportunity to shoot his career to the moon.

Then Vince bought out WCW, matched him up against Undertaker, and buried the ever-loving **** out of him. While I liked the idea of DDP bs Undertaker, and knowing DDP shouldn’t beat Undertaker, the way it was handled DDP was DOA the moment he arrived in WWE.

Quite honestly, the way Vince handled the buyout, burying nearly everyone from WCW, was what killed my fandom the first time around.
 
Count me as one of those that isn't upset that CM Punk is going to be gone for awhile (if not permanently). It was great when he returned last year, but it's like the guy isn't happy unless he's made everyone around him miserable, giving him something to ***** about. There was all this speculation that all this drama between Punk and The Elite was a worked shoot, but it appears that isn't the case. And seriously - they just put the title back on Punk on Sunday, only to have to pull it back off him because he's injured again.

Seriously - a year ago if someone said that WWE was going to have the better product than AEW, drug use mockery would have ensued. But then Vince was forced into retirement, Paul Levesque took over, and a month later here we are.
 
Count me as one of those that isn't upset that CM Punk is going to be gone for awhile (if not permanently). It was great when he returned last year, but it's like the guy isn't happy unless he's made everyone around him miserable, giving him something to ***** about. There was all this speculation that all this drama between Punk and The Elite was a worked shoot, but it appears that isn't the case. And seriously - they just put the title back on Punk on Sunday, only to have to pull it back off him because he's injured again.

Seriously - a year ago if someone said that WWE was going to have the better product than AEW, drug use mockery would have ensued. But then Vince was forced into retirement, Paul Levesque took over, and a month later here we are.

I hadn't been watching AEW for a couple months. Combination of lackluster AEW product plus the nice change in WWE in the front office. Also not sad to see The Elite gone for awhile too. AEW should learn from WCW that putting wrestlers as EVP's is a disaster waiting to happen.
 
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I didn't realize just how much I missed MJF until this moment. Even as a babyface he's still the biggest ***hole in the building - and I freaking love it.

EDIT... well, he was a babyface for all of 5 minutes - lol
He's the best heel promo since Flair and he's 26. Get the belt on him, turn FTR and Hangman heel and build a 21st century Horsemen.

He's the guy to carry the company, not The Elite.
 
I hadn't been watching AEW for a couple months. Combination of lackluster AEW product plus the nice change in WWE in the front office. Also not sad to see The Elite gone for awhile too. AEW should learn from WCW that putting wrestlers as EVP's is a disaster waiting to happen.

It really does feel like AEW is starting to make the same mistakes WCW did. You have an uber-wealthy owner who's a mark but in realty knows little to nothing about the business, leaving the booking decisions in the hands of people who look out for their own best interests. I'm almost wondering if Cody Rhodes saw the writing on the wall and got the hell out of Dodge - and that's when things really started going downhill.

And I honestly agree - it's a better product without The Elite there.
 
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The other thing is AEW’s obsession with WWE needs to stop. It was cute when AEW was new and had enough roster space to be a landing space for nearly every every wrestler Vince didn’t see the value in, but here’s the thing - most of those guys that had a beef with Vince still have a great relationship with HHH, and going back to WWE now that he’s running the shows has become a legitimate option for them. I’m not saying I don’t chuckle a bit when Jericho calls himself a “sports entertainer”, but overall the bit has been played out. So I get how HHH rolls his eyes when Jericho once again brings up how AEW beat NXT in the ratings, stating “congratulations - you beat a developmental program”. Sometimes I feel like HHH is the only person in the room that never actually expected NXT to beat AEW head to head.

The really sad thing is Khan’s obsession with WWE greatly resembles Ted Turner’s obsession with WWF, and it ultimately led him to making decisions that ran him out of business.
 
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Just heard raw coming back to des moines in December. Wwe has never come back this soon as they were here in May. Probably playcating to Rollins ;)
 

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