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What's ISU's Skeleton in the Closet?

jdoggivjc said:
I will never understand this dumb take. I will outright acknowledge McCarney didn’t win nearly as much as he should have, mostly because anytime he got a lead he would get conservative to protect it instead of crushing the opponent’s throat, and by the end of 2006 it was past time to move on from him. But calling him embarrassing is one of the worst takes there is. This current era of Cyclone football we’re enjoying doesn’t exist without McCarney laying the foundation for it.
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Do you even remember the hire?
 
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jdoggivjc said:
I will never understand this dumb take. I will outright acknowledge McCarney didn’t win nearly as much as he should have, mostly because anytime he got a lead he would get conservative to protect it instead of crushing the opponent’s throat, and by the end of 2006 it was past time to move on from him. But calling him embarrassing is one of the worst takes there is. This current era of Cyclone football we’re enjoying doesn’t exist without McCarney laying the foundation for it.
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He's referring to the rumors of domestic violence that popped up around his hire. I believe his wife later said she exaggerated the claims so I'm not sure it's embarrassing but it did happen. They were legit enough at the time that if it happened today, he likely wouldn't be hired.
 
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heitclone said:
He's referring to the rumors of domestic violence that popped up around his hire. I believe his wife later said she exaggerated the claims so I'm sure it's embarrassing but it did happen. They were legit enough at the time that if it happened today, he likely wouldn't be hired.
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Maybe he wouldn’t have been hired, but you can bet he wouldn’t have been fired at U of I.
 
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fcclone said:
Maybe he wouldn’t have been hired, but you can bet he wouldn’t have been fired at U of I.
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Non the less, it was embarrassing. There's no excuse for the university to get blind sided by this after they announced the hire. Assuming most that dumbed the comment weren't aware. Those that were aware obviously don't live in reality.
 
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GTO said:
Hawks: Pierre Pierce, Ferentz racism, rhabdo, Fran's outbursts at refs, not paying contractors, gender discrimination, accusing us of stealing from their locker room, etc.

Their list is longer than ours.
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The Satterfield and Everson rape cover up in the "dark" dorm rooms.

Kirk's kids getting the free rent at low income apartments.

Lois Feldman in the Metrodome bathroom.

Hawks gonna need a bigger closet.
 
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Cyforce said:
Non the less, it was embarrassing. There's no excuse for the university to get blind sided by this after they announced the hire. Assuming most that dumbed the comment weren't aware. Those that were aware obviously don't live in reality.
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I'll still raise you the Eustachy photos partying with college co-eds. BVD and the Athletic department knew of it WELL in advance of the DMR breaking the story yet chose not to do anything about it and let us becoming the laughing stock of the news cycle instead. Anyone around the BB program at the time knew Larry had problems and many even witnessed them in person at some Ames establishments or knew what he was up to when away from the team. But they turned a blind eye to it because we were winning and the AD had every chance to get out in front of the story and be the ones to limit the damage by driving the narrative but Bruce just let them run with it. If that had happened now there probably would be videos of it as it happened on social media but Bruce was basically hand fed that this story was coming out WEEKS before it did including seeing the photos which would never happen now and he still botched the handling of it.

Not saying the the story that came out out Mac was nothing to take lightly at the time it happened but it got nowhere near the national attention that Larry's mess did. And I am still a very vocal Larry supporter to this day and felt we had a path to do damage control on that one and possibly still retain him as coach but our idiot AD at the time allowed that to become a circus where we had no choice but to fire him after the attention it got.

Bruce was an embarrassment himself about how piss poor he ran things and had no vision like Pollard has for growing ISU Athletics. A friend in college shared with me a story of a run in he had with Bruce while watching a soccer game. Apparently his wife and kids were sitting a few rows in front of them and when Bruce showed up she said something to him and pointed back at them. He talked to them and scolded them for apparently talking bad of him in front of his family. Well the funny thing is they never were talking about him at all and didn't know it was his family in front of them so they told him they don't know what he was talking about and maybe if everyone didn't hate him so much maybe they wouldn't be so paranoid to think they were. He then asked them what they meant by that like he had no clue people didn't like him which they laughed and rattled off a bunch of things like him cutting baseball, firing Larry, and various other failures he had why maybe people didn't like him.
 
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Not something to be ashamed of, but tragic:
The odd string of former player deaths from early 00’s guys.
Jason Berryman
Hiawatha Rutland
Ennis Haywood
Cris Love
Stevie Hicks

Hicks, Haywood, and Rutland make up our top rushers from 2006-2008. Chilling.
 
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Eustacy is the most embarassing thing.

Doesnt come close to rhabdo, pierre pierce, losing multiple gender discrimination lawsuits, racial bias concerns, et al.

Larry hurt himself and his family, but he didnt assault anyone or break any laws. He also was punished (fired), unlike most of the above.
 
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MugNight said:
Not something to be ashamed of, but tragic:
The odd string of former player deaths from early 00’s guys.
Jason Berryman - suicide
Hiawatha Rutland - accident
Ennis Haywood - medical condition
Cris Love - cancer
Stevie Hicks - suicide

Hicks, Haywood, and Rutland make up our top rushers from 2006-2008. Chilling.
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There are a few others too, but while odd they mostly are all unique circumstances.

For example Enis had very bad asthma, in practice he always had his inhaler tucked in his sock just in case he needed it.
 
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I consider "skeletons in the closet" to be a phrase attributed more to speculative issues. Not known issues.

If I can speculate (without getting lambasted too much for it.....), I'm betting the Hoiberg & Chizik eras weren't all that squeaky clean recruiting wise.
 
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