The Fran fade

It’s certainly not unreasonable to think he could be a first or second team All B10 player. Id say 17-18 a game is not out of the question either. It’ll be interesting to see how the shot volumes will be distributed between him and Patrick.

It is not unreasonable. If Iowa is competitive at all, they should at least have 1 player on 2nd Team All Conference. I think the bigger question is, will anyone else be there to support him. Hoks found out several times last year what happens if your one go to guy gets shut down. ISU had the same challenge with Brockington but had the defense to cover for most of his bad nights.
 
He seems likely to be less efficient than Keegan, even if he does put up numbers. I could be wrong, but I won't have a problem eating crow if I have to about it, just calling it how I see it.
The odds of him having as good of a season as Keegan are incredibly steep. To predict it would be stupid. Doesn't mean it can't happen, of course.
 
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It is difficult as an ISU fan to witness what happened in 2021-22 and try to make heads or tails out of what could happen this upcoming season. Tj took the term "doing more with less" to a nearly unprecedented level. Sweet 16 is everyone's most recent memory of the team, and it's conveniently easy to forget that they really struggled at times with conference opponents, granted the needless caveat to mention that the Big 12 was and has been the highest echelon of the sport for some time now.

I don't think it's crazy to say that the upcoming version of the Iowa State men's team is more talented on paper than the past season's version. What will be interesting to see play out is how cohesive it can be. Last year's team united behind the idea that everyone counted them out from the get go. That 'chip' won't be there this year, at least not to the same level.

I do think the talent is there to get back to the ncaa tournament, and I am comfortable enough to predict that they do. Seeding wise, an 8 seems like a safe pick. I could see them anywhere from 7-11. It seems like they will susceptible to scoring droughts again and may still struggle to shoot it. Dealing with the unknown at the PG position too, but while Tyrese Hunter was a great freshman player for us, his inefficiencies held the team back at times. I am not ready to punt that position and say Iowa State will be worse there in 22-23. I am excited about our front court, and think it could end up being the best defensively, possibly in school history.

Iowa is most likely in the same boat. They have some talent on paper, but there is a need to see and understand how it will materialize before making a comfortable prediction. Kris Murray is the obvious stud that the offense will run through, but how good the ancillary pieces are will determine the success of the season. If things click on all cylinders and Sandfort and Perkins have upped their game semi significantly, I could see the hawks back in the tournament no question. I could even see them seeded higher than Iowa State, simply because of how the selection committee favors Big 10 teams, and due to how successful I think Iowa can be next year in what appears to be another rendition of a watered down Big 10.

Regardless though, Iowa will have obvious flaws and won't be unlike recent years where they are very soft defensively, especially inside, and lack athleticism to match up with the elite teams. It will come down to how well they can keep up with teams on the offensive end. Seed prediction 6 if everything clicks, to as low as 11, but I do think they'll be in the field.
I predict that ISU will not go undefeated in the non-conference and will not go to the Sweet 16. :)
Ill be happy if they make the tournament, frankly. Not landing Green hurt.
 
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I predict that ISU will not go undefeated in the non-conference and will not go to the Sweet 16. :)
Ill be happy if they make the tournament, frankly. Not landing Green hurt.
I think they'll be back, but very similar to last year. It is kind of impossible to predict where the scoring comes from. We know the defensive identity of the team, and that alone should be able to get them back
 
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HerkyFan has some serious spelling issues.
 
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"cryclown fanatic"

I give it an F for originality and another F for execution. It couldn't get dumber than that. I assume he's trying to sound dumb, right?
 
Occasionally pop into the last page of this thread and am always disappointed it is not actually about Fran getting a fade haircut. Tell me somewhere in the eight million posts that someone photoshopped a fade on Fran?
 
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I don't think it's crazy to say that the upcoming version of the Iowa State men's team is more talented on paper than the past season's version. What will be interesting to see play out is how cohesive it can be. Last year's team united behind the idea that everyone counted them out from the get go. That 'chip' won't be there this year, at least not to the same level.

It might be better than last year but there still isn't a ton of talent on the team.

It is the oldest team in P5 I think though which certainly means a lot.
 
Offensively the talent might even be lacking. Defensively I feel confident in saying they have elite talent.
Williams (6'5")
Gabe (6'4")
Holmes (6'4")
Jaz/King (6'7"/6'8")
Osunniyi (6'10')

From a length and defensive standpoint, that lineup is stellar. Offensively, things are going to have to fall into place. I think Gabe is who he is, but if he plays within his game he can be solid. Williams playing that Deandre Kane roll in playing downhill while finding perimeter shooters and lob threats will be fun to watch. I also think we'll see him duck in and post up quite often just like Kane did.

Holmes has a nice offensive game and if he can shoot like he did his first two years then we're in good hands there. Jaz and King should compliment each other very nice and I think King is going to play the role Enaruna did last year a lot better. Osunniyi is going to be a force on the O-boards and his shot blocking ability is going to create tons of instant offense.
 
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