Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[Stormin]

Oregon has lots of problems. Nike not happy.

Oregon U loses $30 million as Nike president rescinds pledge

Earlier this month, the University of Oregon decided to join the Worker Rights Consortium. Now, in the coming weeks, the school might be faced with another important decision: how to...

mndaily.com

 

[CoKane]

Correct. Notre Dame will never stop playing Navy or USC. I doubt they ever join the Big 10 unless they absolutely have no other choice. They will join the ACC if they have to join something and the ACC still exists. The ACC could easily survive if Notre Dame joins. Notre Dame has a real hatred for the Big 10.

Notre Dame also seems very tied to playing all their rivalry games as often as they can. I don't think anyone outside of them gives a flying **** about ND vs. BC or Wake, but Notre Dame seems to be very into that idea

 

[CoKane]

The Centennial Celebration You Don’t Know About // UHND.com

On November 23, 1887, there were 38 states.

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The Fielding Yost years, from about 1909 to the 1930’s. He was the reason the conference denied membership to ND three times and he tried to get other teams not to play them. He is the reason they adopted a national schedule and started playing USC and Stanford. He was there in an era when ND students had to fight off an attack on campus by the KKK.

What the ****

 

[cyfan92]

Oregon has lots of problems. Nike not happy.

Oregon U loses $30 million as Nike president rescinds pledge

Earlier this month, the University of Oregon decided to join the Worker Rights Consortium. Now, in the coming weeks, the school might be faced with another important decision: how to...

mndaily.com

Mario Cristobal leaving Oregon should have been a leading indicator. If Phil Knight wanted to pledge a kings ransom. He would have never left.

 

[Macloney]

I'm stoked for all this. Clones MBB vs Houston on a Tuesday in February will be banging.

College sports in general keep getting better. UCLA vs NW football is another must see event.

What about water polo and beach volleyball? Does UCLA drop those programs? What does that do Title IX wise? Why would what's left of the PAC12 let them participate?

 

[CyFanInIC]

I would love to see ISU in the big ten for a number of reasons but this talk of kicking out Nebraska and Iowa is a bit off due to ratings. unless the new league they spun off in was very tiny Nebraska and Iowa would most likely still have a place due historic and recent ratings. Last year they were 12th and 20th in overall ratings.

If this is truly about money, what’s stopping the Big 10 from saying “sorry Rutgers and Maryland, it’s not working out and Oregon/Washington make us more money.” Instead of constantly expanding the pie, it would actually make more sense to trim the fat at some point than to say “Oregon doesn’t raise our average we don’t want them.”

Fwiw, ISU and KU probably make more sense ratings wise and geographically than a couple Big 10 schools but none of that matters as much anymore and it’s not happening for us.

 

[Boxerdaddy]

Dennis Dodd is doing everything he can to act like the PAC 12 is stronger than the Big 12. He is trying to write the narrative and failing.

It’s also hilarious that they are beginning media discussions.

Uh, the next article is about how the Big12 is looking to add 6 Pac12 teams and is written by Dodd.

Very interesting. Alot of smoke.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...2-teams-after-usc-ucla-defections-to-big-ten/

 

[psychlones]

Mario Cristobal leaving Oregon should have been a leading indicator. If Phil Knight wanted to pledge a kings ransom. He would have never left.

That article is from... *checks his watch*... 22 years ago.

 

[Boxerdaddy]

Need some graphic arts gurus to do something with x2 somehow for when we go to 24. Could look cool but I have no idea how. (Big XIIx2)

BigXIIxII?

 

[F5cy]

I'm stoked for all this. Clones MBB vs Houston on a Tuesday in February will be banging.

College sports in general keep getting better. UCLA vs NW football is another must see event.

What about water polo and beach volleyball? Does UCLA drop those programs? What does that do Title IX wise? Why would what's left of the PAC12 let them participate?

Indiana has women's water polo. I only know this because they were on a flight to LA that I was on a few months ago. UCLA won't need to drop anything.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

If this is truly about money, what’s stopping the Big 10 from saying “sorry Rutgers and Maryland, it’s not working out and Oregon/Washington make us more money.” Instead of constantly expanding the pie, it would actually make more sense to trim the fat at some point than to say “Oregon doesn’t raise our average we don’t want them.”

Fwiw, ISU and KU probably make more sense ratings wise and geographically than a couple Big 10 schools but none of that matters as much anymore and it’s not happening for us.

Because they are already in and no big ten school wants to start the president of kicking out low performing members. It’s easy to forget with bama and OSU’s dominance that these things are often cyclical. Not that long ago Clemson was a joke and bama was completely irrelevant.

 

[dafarmer]

Problem with the 16 teams this would result in is a real lack of marquee matchups. Not to mention, little rivalry interest. So while the pie may expand, it will be small. Then you’re dividing it 16 ways. So all continue to fall behind. This sums up the rivalry/marquee sentiment.

Well F##k them, drop their a###es out and let them die.

 

[Boxerdaddy]

If their alternative is raiding the Mountain West, then Oregon and Washington will be coming here. The only question is if the B1G (or SEC or ACC) will invite them, or if they can hold the now Pac-10 together and go grab some Big 12 schools. Oregon and Washington are not staying behind to add San Diego State to their conference.

What if...hear me out...We grab San Diego State to grab the SoCal Market and put pressure on the remaining PAC schools in the following scenario

Hear me out...

Assuming we've nabbed the 4 mountain schools already, that takes us to 16 (Without Ou and T)

Add SDS to 17, but giving the PAC not much to add, then

Stanford to 18 (Not sure if they'd ever join us pleebs but who knows)

and then Wash and Oregon to 20.

And if the ACC implodes, we have room for 4.

 

[mj4cy]

I can't stress enough how important it was for UT and OU to announce a year before USC/UCLA.

 

[Stormin]

Because they are already in and no big ten school wants to start the president of kicking out low performing members. It’s easy to forget with bama and OSU’s dominance that these things are often cyclical. Not that long ago Clemson was a joke and bama was completely irrelevant.

Yep. They won’t be kicked out. Besides, the marquee teams need those lesser teams to fatten their records. Limit the number of tough games the marquee teams play against each other.

 

[CyFanInIC]

If this is truly about money, what’s stopping the Big 10 from saying “sorry Rutgers and Maryland, it’s not working out and Oregon/Washington make us more money.” Instead of constantly expanding the pie, it would actually make more sense to trim the fat at some point than to say “Oregon doesn’t raise our

Because they are already in and no big ten school wants to start the president of kicking out low performing members. It’s easy to forget with bama and OSU’s dominance that these things are often cyclical. Not that long ago Clemson was a joke and bama was completely irrelevant.

I think in the current climate you’re completely right. But if this evolves into being all about money, Rutgers brings your least brand recognition and value financially to the conference (I don’t have numbers in front of me just assuming).

It’s going to be really hard for Fox to sit on the sidelines and watch Rutgers play P2 games when people nationally don’t really care about them. Even regionally they aren’t that strong of a brand. Meanwhile, Oregon and Washington are going to be on the outside with much better national appeal.

None of us know where this is going. It’s all hypothetical but once the dam breaks on the ACC, B1G and SEC schools are going to have to be ok accepting members who lower their revenue distribution across the board or they’re going to hit a point where they have the right amount of teams.

It could essentially be a bad game of musical chairs where some decent brands aren’t part of the P2 and some bad brands where grandfathered in. At very least, it’ll be a consideration for TV networks to upgrade their portfolio by swapping better brands for bad brands currently on the inside. Especially if college football eventually leaves the NCAA.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

I can't stress how important it was for UT and OU to announce a year before USC/UCLA.

Interesting to consider the alternative.

If they had announced the same summer, the Big 12 and Pac-12 would have merged. That’s 18 schools (if Oregon and Washington stick around). 16 schools if they leave. And if Stanford left too, you probably add Cincinnati. So you trade BYU, UCF, and Houston for Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal.

If USC/UCLA had announced last summer when we still had OU/UT, the Big 12 likely would have poached the same six Pac-12 programs that we are talking about right now. Wash St, Ore St, Cal, and Stanford are demoted if they can’t latch on elsewhere, and we sit at 16. When OU and UT announced later, we could have stayed at 14 or been in a position to grab BYU and Cincy.

The big losers by this stroke of timing appear to be WSU and OSU, since the conferences would have merged if it all went down at the same time.

 

[Triggermv]

 

[cyfan92]

I'm stoked for all this. Clones MBB vs Houston on a Tuesday in February will be banging.

College sports in general keep getting better. UCLA vs NW football is another must see event.

What about water polo and beach volleyball? Does UCLA drop those programs? What does that do Title IX wise? Why would what's left of the PAC12 let them participate?

ISU playing a top 5 KenPom team in February would be appointment TV when outside is -20 degree windchill... How about a November road game against Dana? I'd take 70 degrees and a direct flight over traveling to West Texas and playing Tech

 

[Macloney]

Indiana has women's water polo. I only know this because they were on a flight to LA that I was on a few months ago. UCLA won't need to drop anything.

Sweet.