Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

[7Got6]

I was interested in the who will eat who thing between the Pac-10 and Big 12 until every reporter said the Big Ten is not done, and every report has said things are on a brief pause only to wait for Notre Dame's decision. This makes total sense.

The B1G will take at least 1 and potentially more Pac-10 school(s), which will make the "who will eat who?" question very easy to answer. The Big 12 will poach whoever it wants from whoever is left. The Pac-12 will either die or will become a hollow shell back-filled with Mountain West schools.

There’s no use speculating on anything until B10 and the SEC are done picking their teeth.

 

[Thinker]

You think it makes sense for USC to play Purdue? None of this makes any "sense"

For 100 million a year and better exposure it certainly does

 

[cyIclSoneU]

All I am saying is both leagues are about equal so why leave

The Big 12 is more stable for Arizona or Utah because they already know that the B1G, SEC, ACC don't want any of those schools. They all tried a year ago and got rejected. Ironic that it works this way, but the Big 12 is much more stable for this reason.

If you stay in the Pac-12 because it's about equal then you might get nuked when Washington and/or Oregon bail on you. For the B1G, for the SEC, maybe for the ACC, maybe even for a sweetheart uneven revenue sharing deal in the Big 12. It's riskier. Big 12 is a safer play to stay at the table.

Somebody in the Pac-12 right now is likely to get demoted out of the P5 (or P4 once that league collapses). If you take the Big 12 invite now you guarantee that it's not you. That's extremely attractive considering the only schools guaranteed to not get demoted are Oregon and UW. There are scenarios where any of the other 8 end up in the Mountain West.

 

[HoopsTournament]

Because they will get a TV deal after 2024. Before the big 12 does.

That makes no sense. It would still be unstable. UW and Oregon have said they don’t want to sign a GOR. Chances are it will be for much less and shorter which keeps conference unstable. Big 12 teams are more aligned than ever before. It makes much more sense for them to add more like minded schools that don’t threaten the stability of the conference.

 

[JM4CY]

You think it makes sense for USC to play Purdue? None of this makes any "sense"

I would pay top dollar to watch ucla battle Rutgers. Heavyweights going at it? Count. Me. In.

 

[HoopsTournament]

The only way the Pac-10 could poach from the Big 12 is if those 10 schools released a new GOR that they all signed into the 2030s. I think B12 teams would jump if Oregon and UW tied themselves to the league like that.

Of course that is not happening.

Exactly

 

[HFCS]

I don't think they are if they take a couple big 12 teams. Washington and Oregon going to Florida or West Virginia make no sense. Oklahoma State BYU and Texas schools going west does. If your not in the top 2 money making leagues.

I think there’s a .001% both Oregon and Washington are in Pac long term if Pac exists. If they are both in Pac long term it’s actually a bad sign that things went horribly wrong with our new comish and we’re basically in American Athletic.

Washington has a ton of travel no matter what unless the four PNW schools unite for life and add noise state.

 

[StPaulCyclone]

If the bar for being added to the B10 is 100 million, so revenue by adding them does not drop the payout of each team, then the only team that is going to being in that type of money to anyone is ND.

It was not long ago that B10 fans were saying that unless your school brought in at least 50 million it was not getting an invite, now the bar is 100 million?

Maybe the schools in the B10 are just going to have to lower expectations a little and stop talking about 100 to 120 million per school and get a little bit less greedy and say 90 million per year will be fine.

If the number to join is $100MM, then what is it to stay? Eventually something is going to happen to the teams that don’t pull their own weight. OSU considered going independent, that says a lot.

 

[JM4CY]

Stop feeding Thinker. The dude is a nutjob and nothing he says makes any sense.

 

[HoopsTournament]

All I am saying is both leagues are about equal so why leave

They are not equal right now. PAC 12 has over half their teams already in contact with other conferences.

 

[Thinker]

That makes no sense. It would still be unstable. UW and Oregon have said they don’t want to sign a GOR. Chances are it will be for much less and shorter which keeps conference unstable. Big 12 teams are more aligned than ever before. It makes much more sense for them to add more like minded schools that don’t threaten the stability of the conference.

And they wouldn't sign on in the big 12 either

 

[HFCS]

Wait is Thinker a hawk troll? I avoid the rivalry board.

In my experience posters with names like voiceofreason, critical observer, thinker, etc are generally insufferable. I laugh just thinking about the moment when the username gets created.

 

[JP4CY]

No, it's laughable that you feel "qualified" to rip Bowlsby yet again, when you have no knowledge whatsoever of what he did/could have done. Just amazing.
So then it's George Kliavkoff's fault that USC and UCLA bolted? After all he said just recently that he was "not concerned" about the Big Ten poaching any of his teams.
Tell me what could he have done, genius?

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[Thinker]

They are not equal right now. PAC 12 has over half their teams already in contact with other conferences.

The big 12 did the same last year right? And took on the top lower level schools and did not poach any major conference teams

 

[HoopsTournament]

And they wouldn't sign on in the big 12 either

I have no expectations of UW and Oregon of coming to the Big 12. I expect Arizona, Arizona State, Utah and Colorado to join Big 12 because they know that UW and Oregon will jump to the Big 10 tomorrow if they get the invite.

 

[BCClone]

You think it makes sense for USC to play Purdue? None of this makes any "sense"

Well, by adding USC, now Iowa has another team besides OSU that they will never play.

 

[JP4CY]

Stop feeding Thinker. The dude is a nutjob and nothing he says makes any sense.

Yes, yes, yes. Ignore that dork.

 

[HoopsTournament]

The big 12 did the same last year right? And took on the top lower level schools and did not poach any major conference teams

After PAC 12 turned down Big 12 teams saying they weren’t expanding. Big 12 is not going to make the same mistake. (You need to add the word “Not very good” to the beginning of your username)

 

[HoopsTournament]

Yes, yes, yes. Ignore that dork.

But it’s just too easy. His posts are so ridiculous, and I have nothing else to do today.

 

[Thinker]

I have no expectations of UW and Oregon of coming to the Big 12. I expect Arizona, Arizona State, Utah and Colorado to join Big 12 because they know that UW and Oregon will jump to the Big 10 tomorrow if they get the invite.

Yeah that is what I have said. Lol if those 2 leave then big 12 goes after the others. But the door may be open for Stanford and Cal to the big in the future. And the SEC could come for Arizona market